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Post by Stuntman on Apr 28, 2017 18:14:03 GMT
I cannot remember the last time I posted about an automotive villain, but someone really made me angry today. I was half-way round a roundabout and somebody joined it from my left when there clearly wasn't a viable gap to do so, causing me to brake (not just lift). As I'd patiently waited for about 30 seconds before joining the roundabout and not behaved in a similar fashion to him, I gave the driver a toot on my horn. He took the next exit, same as me, and then stood on his brakes bringing his car to a standstill. Naturally I had to do the same, and was now completely stationary about 10 metres past the exit of this roundabout. I was shouting, swearing and pointing at him. I thought what he did was incredibly dangerous - as if he was either trying to get me to crash into him, or trying to get someone to crash into me and then he would have just driven off. He moved off after about 3 seconds, but I wanted to get out of my car and absolutely twat him.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Apr 28, 2017 18:27:04 GMT
Which car were you in?
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Post by Alex on Apr 28, 2017 19:53:16 GMT
It's at times like that I wish I had a dash cam!
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 28, 2017 20:02:33 GMT
It's at times like that I wish I had a dash cam! For all the cost of them, why not?
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Post by Martin on Apr 28, 2017 20:45:54 GMT
What would you have done if you had one in that situation?
I can't bring myself to contemplate a dash cam. It's partly because I don't want anything stuck to my windscreen that wasn't fitted at the factory, but also because I'm really not the dash cam type.....I know a few forum members have them and they are clearly the exceptions, but whenever I see someone driving gittishly, there's a fair chance they'll have a dashcam, complete with stickers to let you know you're being recorded should you be offended enough by their poor driving to make a point.
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Post by Stuntman on Apr 28, 2017 21:21:31 GMT
The M3, driving home from work and generally minding my own business. I agree with Martin regarding dashcams. It was just that this driver made me feel really, really angry because of the danger he intentionally put me in.
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 28, 2017 21:42:59 GMT
What would you have done if you had one in that situation? I can't bring myself to contemplate a dash cam. It's partly because I don't want anything stuck to my windscreen that wasn't fitted at the factory, but also because I'm really not the dash cam type.....I know a few forum members have them and they are clearly the exceptions, but whenever I see someone driving gittishly, there's a fair chance they'll have a dashcam, complete with stickers to let you know you're being recorded should you be offended enough by their poor driving to make a point. No stickers for me; in fact, I've made it as unobtrusive as possible for exactly that reason!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Apr 30, 2017 8:45:57 GMT
What would you have done if you had one in that situation? I can't bring myself to contemplate a dash cam. It's partly because I don't want anything stuck to my windscreen that wasn't fitted at the factory, but also because I'm really not the dash cam type.....I know a few forum members have them and they are clearly the exceptions, but whenever I see someone driving gittishly, there's a fair chance they'll have a dashcam, complete with stickers to let you know you're being recorded should you be offended enough by their poor driving to make a point. I do see your point and I agree to a certain degree. There are clearly Mr I have a dashcam don't you know types out there. They ring in to the police quite regularly to report that someone did something and they have footage of it. My first thought is usually, "I wonder what you did first to warrant that behaviour." I also remember that your own dashcam could potentially have incriminating evidence of your driving in the event of a collision. At least micro SD cards are small enough to swallow...!
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 30, 2017 9:17:55 GMT
I've been putting off getting one ages for all the reasons above. However, I have had several very near misses in the last couple of months due to some really poor driving (mainly people driving at me on the wrong side of the road) so have bitten the bullet. I've turned off the speed display in the TVR, obviously, although I realise here are other ways to calculate it - white lines, time and distance between two points etc.
The way I look at it, both cameras combined cost less than the insurance excess for one policy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 13:44:58 GMT
The last car I saw with camera stickers on it was being driven by a right fucking twat. He was doing all sorts of shit driving and no doubt then editing the footage to make him look superior. His missus even had a handheld camera and was filming people undertaking because they were purposely trundling along in the outside lane of a dual carriageway. Mr and Mrs Cunt!
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Post by Andy C on Apr 30, 2017 14:01:41 GMT
Just been out the front talking to my neighbour when a rough looking prick in a battered old focus estate drove past, with a lad who must've been about 2 sat on his lap, Steering the car .
Number plate noted and a call to my local police made
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Post by Roadsterstu on Apr 30, 2017 19:56:42 GMT
I've been putting off getting one ages for all the reasons above. However, I have had several very near misses in the last couple of months due to some really poor driving (mainly people driving at me on the wrong side of the road) so have bitten the bullet. I've turned off the speed display in the TVR, obviously, although I realise here are other ways to calculate it - white lines, time and distance between two points etc. The way I look at it, both cameras combined cost less than the insurance excess for one policy. I've turned my speed and GPS coordinates, too. I might turn off the microphone as well, as each journey is a right swear fest!
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Post by johnc on May 1, 2017 14:02:47 GMT
Taking my daughter and her two friends to swimming yesterday, driving at 30mph along a main road I know well when a woman in a red Civic drove straight across our road at 30mph at least, totally ignoring the give way. If we had been 2 seconds earlier she would have T-boned us and 1 second earlier and I would have hit her. That was F'n close and I didn't even have time to hit the horn but she didn't look round or see me, she was just staring ahead. What goes through some people's minds?
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Post by Boxer6 on May 1, 2017 15:30:57 GMT
Taking my daughter and her two friends to swimming yesterday, driving at 30mph along a main road I know well when a woman in a red Civic drove straight across our road at 30mph at least, totally ignoring the give way. If we had been 2 seconds earlier she would have T-boned us and 1 second earlier and I would have hit her. That was F'n close and I didn't even have time to hit the horn but she didn't look round or see me, she was just staring ahead. What goes through some people's minds?On that evidence, their windscreens!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 15:41:04 GMT
Being out walking dogs most days I get to observe other drivers more closely than I would if I were driving and some people are unbelievable. The amount of people I watch who approach and enter roundabouts without looking to the right or even brushing the brake pedal is scandalous. They just seem to think that whoever might be there can do the slowing down for them and not impede their more important process. Wouldn't want to be adding all those seconds onto their journey, eh!
My quiet dead end road has a roundabout at the end of it and the road to the left and the straight ahead is quite busy as it is technically the A road route to Frome. That means almost every time I drive onto the roundabout to go straight across someone approaches from the left and then turns left without stopping, thus cutting me up...
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Post by Roadsterstu on May 1, 2017 20:48:15 GMT
There's a lot of people who seem to forget that those markings as you enter a roundabout are Give Way markings.
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Post by Boxer6 on May 1, 2017 21:36:01 GMT
There's a lot of people who seem to forget that those markings as you enter a roundabout are Give Way markings. As are the ones at the bottom of slip roads! Once again, today I had no less than 3 different people virtually stopping on a 50mph-limited road to let me out of a slip road, only one of which (a Transit driver, no less!) took heed of my gesture waving him on. Perhaps more modern autobox designs react a bit quicker to kickdown than my car, especially when it's cold, but mine simply does not want to give its best in that situation in that state. One of these days someone is going to be badly hurt as a result of this sort of fuckwittery, and I know I'll feel like shit even though it won't be my fault . . . .
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Post by ChrisM on May 2, 2017 6:58:59 GMT
Hundreds, nay thousands, of motorists this morning driving without lights in the "unexpected" fog that has descended across my part of the world.
IMHO the sooner we ban automatic lights, the better
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Post by johnc on May 2, 2017 7:15:44 GMT
IMHO the sooner we ban automatic lights, the better Don't blame the tools - it's the tool behind the wheel who's at fault - they only need to turn the dial two or three notches and if that's beyond them, they shouldn't be allowed on the road.
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Post by Alex on May 2, 2017 8:52:04 GMT
IMHO the sooner we ban automatic lights, the better Don't blame the tools - it's the tool behind the wheel who's at fault - they only need to turn the dial two or three notches and if that's beyond them, they shouldn't be allowed on the road. I agree. I have auto lights and haven't had any problems overriding them when required.
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Post by Nelson on May 2, 2017 12:37:24 GMT
Don't blame the tools - it's the tool behind the wheel who's at fault - they only need to turn the dial two or three notches and if that's beyond them, they shouldn't be allowed on the road. I agree. I have auto lights and haven't had any problems overriding them when required. I have auto lights too and I find it no problem to turn the switch back 2 notches to side lights if the light drops a little and no problems then turning on my headlights back to auto when necessary the problem is not always with the fitting of auto lights but educating the driver as many cars have dashboard instrumentation that illuminates when the ignition is switched on even during the day giving a false impression in the evening that the cars exterior lights are switched on. How drivers then can't tell that their interior switches, controls aren't illuminated and therefore need to switch on their lights is beyond me
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 13:32:15 GMT
Thing is, if the car manufacturers can't come up with auto lights that are fit for purpose, what chance do they have of producing autonomous vehicles?
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Post by johnc on May 2, 2017 13:50:28 GMT
Thing is, if the car manufacturers can't come up with auto lights that are fit for purpose, what chance do they have of producing autonomous vehicles? They'll all look like giant dodgem cars
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Post by Boxer6 on May 2, 2017 17:36:27 GMT
I agree. I have auto lights and haven't had any problems overriding them when required. I have auto lights too and I find it no problem to turn the switch back 2 notches to side lights if the light drops a little and no problems then turning on my headlights back to auto when necessary the problem is not always with the fitting of auto lights but educating the driver as many cars have dashboard instrumentation that illuminates when the ignition is switched on even during the day giving a false impression in the evening that the cars exterior lights are switched on. How drivers then can't tell that their interior switches, controls aren't illuminated and therefore need to switch on their lights is beyond me Side-lights are the work of the devil and should be banned forthwith! Seriously, I see no earthly reason for side-lights, never did. Herself uses hers a lot, despite my admonitions to the contrary, which on a Td5 look like stuttering candles from any sort of distance at all!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 17:48:04 GMT
Driving on sidelights is (quite rightly) verboten in the Vaterland, as far as I understand it.
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Post by Nelson on May 2, 2017 17:55:44 GMT
I have auto lights too and I find it no problem to turn the switch back 2 notches to side lights if the light drops a little and no problems then turning on my headlights back to auto when necessary the problem is not always with the fitting of auto lights but educating the driver as many cars have dashboard instrumentation that illuminates when the ignition is switched on even during the day giving a false impression in the evening that the cars exterior lights are switched on. How drivers then can't tell that their interior switches, controls aren't illuminated and therefore need to switch on their lights is beyond me Side-lights are the work of the devil and should be banned forthwith! Seriously, I see no earthly reason for side-lights, never did. Herself uses hers a lot, despite my admonitions to the contrary, which on a Td5 look like stuttering candles from any sort of distance at all! I use side lights a lot. Just like DRL's what catches your forward vision the most when driving against oncoming traffic...it's cars with DRL's on, and that's my justification why I use side lights. They aren't bright but you have to admit that if a line of cars was travelling towards you you would notice the car with it's side lights on first. Just like a cyclist with static or flashing rear lights...which one do you notice first?...the flashing set of lights. If your'e better seen then your'e less likely to have some twat run into you
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Post by Boxer6 on May 2, 2017 19:03:57 GMT
Side-lights are the work of the devil and should be banned forthwith! Seriously, I see no earthly reason for side-lights, never did. Herself uses hers a lot, despite my admonitions to the contrary, which on a Td5 look like stuttering candles from any sort of distance at all! I use side lights a lot. Just like DRL's what catches your forward vision the most when driving against oncoming traffic...it's cars with DRL's on, and that's my justification why I use side lights. They aren't bright but you have to admit that if a line of cars was travelling towards you you would notice the car with it's side lights on first. Just like a cyclist with static or flashing rear lights...which one do you notice first?...the flashing set of lights. If your'e better seen then your'e less likely to have some twat run into you IF the side lights are of a decent brightness and dimensions then sure, no problem. My point was that the vast majority would seem to serve no useful purpose simply because they aren't very bright and/or of any significant size. I mentioned LR Td5 side-lights; these things are about an inch or so diameter (probably less actually, but she's out in it just now so I can't go and measure!) and put out less light than the tea-lights she likes to use on a winters evening! My point to her was, if the person looking at you can't see 2½ tons of bright blue Land Rover, a couple of feeble candles at either side will zero difference whatsoever! Of course, just because someone CAN see you is no guarantee they WILL! I've had people look right at me pull out in front of me anyway, even with a pair of HID's staring at them!!
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Post by LandieMark on May 2, 2017 19:10:25 GMT
I get "dim dip" when I turn my sidelights on. Remember that!?
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Post by Boxer6 on May 2, 2017 21:37:23 GMT
I get "dim dip" when I turn my sidelights on. Remember that!? I do indeed! Sometimes, I just feel really old; this is one of those times.
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Post by Nelson on May 3, 2017 7:30:46 GMT
A good driver will always turn on their sidelights at dusk and then switch to full dipped beam when it gets dark. Despite their brightness they do act as a better visual aid than no lights at all, certainty on cloudy low light evenings. A persons periphoral vision is good enough to make out a vehicle driving with side lights on better than one without. When it starts to get low light the autolights on my Mondeo do switch on to sidelights for period then dipped beam when necessary. Running with just sidelights at the appropriate time is safer than running with non at all.
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