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Post by Martin on Apr 13, 2017 20:37:27 GMT
Using a Saab 95 Aero as a tow car meant lots of surprised drivers, especially when they were overtaken on A Roads!
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 13, 2017 22:17:12 GMT
I fondly remember my dad's '95 850 T5. That was a monster tow car.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Apr 14, 2017 8:02:56 GMT
Indeed, the caravan is light at 1200kg and the car has 270-odd torques, I'm simply amazed how utterly incapable people seem. Truck drivers have my sympathy here. It's only when you have a strict speed limit, lots of extra weight and plan well ahead to maintain momentum that you really see just how incapable of planning and anticipation behind the wheel most drivers are.
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 14, 2017 17:03:35 GMT
Indeed, the caravan is light at 1200kg and the car has 270-odd torques, I'm simply amazed how utterly incapable people seem. Truck drivers have my sympathy here. It's only when you have a strict speed limit, lots of extra weight and plan well ahead to maintain momentum that you really see just how incapable of planning and anticipation behind the wheel most drivers are. Having a speed limiter fitted is even worse. The last lorry was slow, but it would eventually get to 65-70mph. The new one pulls hard right up to 55mph where it hits a wall. It is an odd sensation.
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Post by Tim on Apr 18, 2017 13:27:08 GMT
Fife Council
One of the parks in Cupar has had a gravel carpark for, well, at least the last 35 years. It needed a bit of hole filling but was otherwise fine.
I drove past at the weekend and lo and behold there's a nice, shiny new, perfectly smooth tarmac carpark in its place complete with white lines to show which direction the new one way system is.
Meanwhile when I drive on the majority of roads in the same part of the county I spend most of my attention looking for the many potholes that blight all the roads from unclassified ones all the way up to the major A rods, like the one I damaged the 320's tyres on recently.
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Post by PG on Apr 18, 2017 15:45:39 GMT
As I towed our livestock trailer back from the market this morning at about 9.30am, some muppet in an Audi A4 estate (in lease white) drove about one inch of my rear the whole way along a twisty NSL road. Ok, I wasn't doing 60, I was managing 50-55. Sorry. But did you really have to overtake on double white lines with what I know to be a hidden dip in front of us? Thank fuck there was nothing in the dip....
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 18, 2017 18:08:12 GMT
As I towed our livestock trailer back from the market this morning at about 9.30am, some muppet in an Audi A4 estate (in lease white) drove about one inch of my rear the whole way along a twisty NSL road. Ok, I wasn't doing 60, I was managing 50-55. Sorry. But did you really have to overtake on double white lines with what I know to be a hidden dip in front of us? Thank fuck there was nothing in the dip.... Tut tut! 50mph for you with a trailer m'lad!!
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 18, 2017 18:42:08 GMT
If it was with the Shogun then it's 50mph whether there is a trailer or not! 😉
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 18, 2017 18:57:21 GMT
If it was with the Shogun then it's 50mph whether there is a trailer or not! 😉 Is it? Does a Shogun not count as a car in that respect then? Every day's a school day an' all that!
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 18, 2017 19:01:07 GMT
If it was with the Shogun then it's 50mph whether there is a trailer or not! 😉 Is it? Does a Shogun not count as a car in that respect then? Every day's a school day an' all that! PG's is a LCV, not a car. The ones with rear seats and windows are classed as a car and can do 60. My Defender is registered as a LCV (it was originally a hard top van) and can only do 50 in NSL as a result. It's not a major hardship.
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Post by Alex on Apr 18, 2017 20:04:24 GMT
Is it? Does a Shogun not count as a car in that respect then? Every day's a school day an' all that! PG's is a LCV, not a car. The ones with rear seats and windows are classed as a car and can do 60. My Defender is registered as a LCV (it was originally a hard top van) and can only do 50 in NSL as a result. It's not a major hardship. I was about to say Mark, the Defender isn't know to be the most sprightly of vehicles so it must take a while to get above 50, I know my friends G reg one does and I think he's got the some engine.
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 18, 2017 20:41:18 GMT
If it's a G reg is it is most likely a 19J 2.5 TD or an early 200tdi unless it's had a conversion.
My 300Tdi pulls really well. It's not massively quick but gets to 60 without taking an age and will cruise happily at 65-70 on a dual carriageway. Corners on the other hand........😄
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Post by PG on Apr 18, 2017 20:56:56 GMT
PG's is a LCV, not a car. The ones with rear seats and windows are classed as a car and can do 60. My Defender is registered as a LCV (it was originally a hard top van) and can only do 50 in NSL as a result. It's not a major hardship. Indeed you are correct. It is yet another area where the law is a stupid ass. Shogun with seats - that'll be a car sir. Take the rear seats out and you're suddenly only allowed to do 50 in an NSL. This clearly dates back to the days when most LCV's were dangerous deathtraps. But it seems that double cab pickups are exempt. They are the new fastest things on the road in general. I also take the view that as far as I know, camera vans and speed cameras (apart from average speed ones) are not fitted with ANPR equipment. So how they know the first shogun coming towards them is a car and the next one is an LCV is a bit of a mystery. So I reckon that as long as you're sensible, you should be OK (touches wood).
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Post by ChrisM on Apr 19, 2017 7:21:30 GMT
I also take the view that as far as I know, camera vans and speed cameras (apart from average speed ones) are not fitted with ANPR equipment. So how they know the first shogun coming towards them is a car and the next one is an LCV is a bit of a mystery. So I reckon that as long as you're sensible, you should be OK (touches wood). I wouldn't bet on it. Last place I worked, someone got done on camera for driving a pool van at 70 in an NSL where it was (unknown to him and most staff) limited to 60 (or maybe he was doing 60 where it was limited to 50) since it wasn't a car-based van (older Ford Transit Connect). We all got a company-wide e-mail after this happened to draw attention to the lower limits applicable to vans. Colleague who got caught wasn't happy, I can tell you; he had a clean licence up to that point .......
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 19, 2017 10:44:22 GMT
I wouldn't bet on it. Last place I worked, someone got done on camera for driving a pool van at 70 in an NSL where it was (unknown to him and most staff) limited to 60 (or maybe he was doing 60 where it was limited to 50) since it wasn't a car-based van (older Ford Transit Connect). We all got a company-wide e-mail after this happened to draw attention to the lower limits applicable to vans. Colleague who got caught wasn't happy, I can tell you; he had a clean licence up to that point ....... Indeed, I know an electrician who got done for doing 68mph on a dual carriageway in his Transit Connect by 'plank in a van' on a bridge - he saw it and thought nothing of it until the NIP arrived a few days later He has my sympathies - a ridiculous rule. I'd be more than happy to let Transit Connects do 70mph and for someone to stop 3 tonne Sprinter vans doing 90mph in the outside lane.
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Post by Tim on Apr 19, 2017 13:10:29 GMT
About 10 years ago I hired a 7.5 tonner for house moving duties and was surprised how nippy it was. It was a bit susceptible to side winds on the motorway at 75 though so I had to slow down One of the local hire companies had a fairly powerful Transit high-roof but it was limited to about 80. It got there pretty quick though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 13:36:05 GMT
I thought the original Transit Connect had Focus underpinnings and that car based vans weren't subject to the lower speed limits?
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 19, 2017 14:52:25 GMT
The underpinnings aren't the issue, it is what it is registered as. A Vito is a van so subject to the lower limits, but a Viano is a car and therefore subject to the car limits.
I think things like Fiesta Vans and Corsa vans are subject to car limits as they are true car based vans.
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Post by PG on Apr 19, 2017 16:34:53 GMT
It's all pretty simple really - no actually it's a total mess.... www.gov.uk/speed-limitsYour car derived van has to be under 2000kg GVW to qualify as a car derived van and be allowed to do the same speed as cars. Dual purpose vehicles (i.e double cab pickups) are also allowed to do the same speeds as cars (which just seems crazy compared to LCV limits). LCV's and HGV's under 7.5 tonnes have one set of reduced limits (so that includes Transit Connects, Transits, Mark's Defender and our Shogun). HGV's over 7.5 tonnes have yet another set of limits. Oh, and if you have a speed limiter fitted (which our horse lorry does), then that is set at 90kmh (about 56 mph) which means that you can't actually do the 60mph speed you're legally entitled to do on the motorway. Work the logic of that one out if you can..... I suspect the 90kmh is an EU thing. Going back to my approach though, if plank in a van sees a Transit Connect coming towards him he will track it for breaking 50 in an NSL (as per Chris'colleague). But if he sees a Short Wheel Base Shogun coming towards him, there is no way he knows if it is a passenger one or a van one. It seems to have worked so far, although I do slow down when I see cameras just in case.
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Post by Martin on Apr 19, 2017 16:59:13 GMT
Are there any benefits to having the Shogun/Defender classified as an LCV? Can you get it re-classified as a car, or is that just too painful a process?
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 19, 2017 17:01:28 GMT
If he changes to to a car, then in theory, he has to repay the VAT reclaimed on the purchase of a LCV. So yes, there was an advantage to buying a LCV from a business point of view!
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 20, 2017 15:30:41 GMT
Twat in white hatchback of some description - Mazda 2, I think. Overtook me and went through while I waited at a red temporary traffic light. Shame he didn't meet a tractor coming the other way.
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Post by PG on Apr 21, 2017 13:43:27 GMT
Are there any benefits to having the Shogun/Defender classified as an LCV? Can you get it re-classified as a car, or is that just too painful a process? As Trev says, buying an LCV allows you to recover the VAT (if you are a VAT registered business) and claim full capital allowances. Plus the road tax is £230 per year rather then the £550 that the Shogun of that age would be as it was over 225 CO2's. If you want an LCV reclassified as a car later in life, I think you only pay VAT on the value at the point of conversion.
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Post by Martin on Apr 21, 2017 15:07:46 GMT
A motorcyclist on a dual carriageway just south of Paris. Well, there were loads of them and a high % were being villains, but this particular one was going down the middle and decided not to slow down when a lady was slowly (due to moving over into the left lane. Instead, he accelerated a little so he could cut around the front of her car and get back into the middle.
He couldn't and got knocked off.
Not badly hurt thankfully and the bike looked in reasonable shame other than it leaking petrol but the poor woman looked really shaken and upset.
Pretty much every bike that was weaving down the middle had their hazard lights flashing, not something I've seen in this country.
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Post by Tim on Apr 21, 2017 15:39:08 GMT
There are a few roads closed for resurfacing in Dundee City Centre which has lead a few people to go along a one way road parallel with the main road west to east just below the city centre. Sadly for them this road is currently a dead end due to said works. Clearly most people have made the effort to turn round and go back but not the old dear at lunchtime. She took advantage of the dropped kerb on the right to go across the pavement wide and onto the main road.
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Post by LandieMark on Apr 21, 2017 16:54:02 GMT
Today's was a ignorant MAMIL in Corbridge. He was at the front of the queue at the lights to go over the single track Roman Bridge. Did he keep to the side - did he shite. He kept over to right to deliberately block cars overtaking him before he proceeded at a snail's pace over the bridge when he then swung violently right with no warning to take a wide left.
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Post by Boxer6 on Apr 21, 2017 19:18:07 GMT
Today's was a ignorant MAMIL in Corbridge. He was at the front of the queue at the lights to go over the single track Roman Bridge. Did he keep to the side - did he shite. He kept over to right to deliberately block cars overtaking him before he proceeded at a snail's pace over the bridge when he then swung violently right with no warning to take a wide left. Exactly the sort of moronic cuntybaws who'd sue the arse of anyone who didn't see him due to his twatty antics (assuming he survived, of course). No doubt he will meet a grisly end sometime; I just hope he does it by driving off a pier or something, instead of involving someone else!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Apr 22, 2017 9:47:47 GMT
A motorcyclist on a dual carriageway just south of Paris. Well, there were loads of them and a high % were being villains, but this particular one was going down the middle and decided not to slow down when a lady was slowly (due to moving over into the left lane. Instead, he accelerated a little so he could cut around the front of her car and get back into the middle. He couldn't and got knocked off. Not badly hurt thankfully and the bike looked in reasonable shame other than it leaking petrol but the poor woman looked really shaken and upset. Pretty much every bike that was weaving down the middle had their hazard lights flashing, not something I've seen in this country. After seeing the rush hour antics of motorbike and scooter riders in Paris, I concluded that the hazard lights meant that their force field was activated. They ride like complete twats.
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Post by humphreythepug on Apr 25, 2017 19:22:49 GMT
Guy in an orange Jeep Renegade driving the wrong way up the slip road to the A3 earlier, fortunately I was waiting at the lights to go across the entrance to the sliproad, however a few had gone down it; I bet they got a bit of a fright seeing him come up!
It was a bit of a WTF moment, I gesticuled to him in a "what the fuck are you doing" kind of way, he motioned back in a "yes I know I've fucked up somewhere" kind of way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 17:36:43 GMT
A mad woman in a Golf at a double roundabout. There were three cars in the vicinity of the roundabout all on my right, one crossed, and as there was a good gap before the next car arrived at the roundabout so I moved on to the roundabout. The woman on the right accelerated while I was half way across and she nearly t boned me. All I got was was a shrug and a look of "What can I do"? This particular roundabout is known for people doing this and I cannot avoid using it or I would go another way. The people using this particular racetrack have an attitude of "What are you going to do about it"? It is not as if they do not have a clue as they are licensed drivers.
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