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Post by Tim on Nov 23, 2017 14:10:11 GMT
50 miles a day limit is a bit crap and gives no time at all to learn the car.
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 23, 2017 14:12:16 GMT
50 miles a day limit is a bit crap and gives no time at all to learn the car. Where I live you'd be lucky to cover 50 miles in a day! |
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Post by Martin on Nov 23, 2017 15:55:12 GMT
50 miles a day limit is a bit crap and gives no time at all to learn the car. It isn’t, I couldn’t even get to work and back! You’d have to drive 100 miles the first day then just look at it all day. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 0:43:30 GMT
That RS2000 is fabulous, one of my dream cars (that and a Mexico) - if I could get one for under £20k I wouldn't even hesitate, I'd be straight out with the cheque book. Unfortunately they've gone well beyond that now and while £87k is a ridiculous money, if you can afford the car you've always wanted, why not? I still can't get my head around it being owned and not driven though. What a waste. You can get one that you can use for under £20k Bob Someone I know just bought one for 15.5k -MOTd and driveable. It's not in the same condition as that 87k but then none of the ones we ran around in back in the 80s/90s were either. Currently has a bit more poke than standard with a bored out Pinto but he's debating whether to put in something a bit pokier and what it might be. It won't be expensive to do or hard to fix and not much to run. 170bhp is enough in a 900kg car for starters. Needs a few bits and bobs to make it original inside. it wouldn't make an excellent motorway cruiser...or London city centre commuter car......but on the roads round here and into the hills it's brilliant to drive i doubt he'll lose money on it, at least until ICE cars are banned from the road, but it's a lot less to lose than someone who's splashed 100k on an old 911 or 200k on a re-imagined Alfaholics car. Would they be 6 or 12 times as much fun? For him or me, we doubt it It's pointless trying to explain to people that don't like old cars/Fords what's fun about it - you'll either get it or you won't. I had a drive in it and would love it...but I've already got an old Ford that I enjoy better than anything else I can afford. Yes, it had some rattles, it was noisy, it is currently only Suzuki Swift Sport fast, the steering feels heavy at low speeds compared to my 325ti........but point it down our favourite test route, snick the lever into 3rd ( the box is a good as I remember ) and you can really use the power to steer the rear in a way that most people wouldn't recognise in a modern 3-series. All this is happening without needing to approach 3-figure speeds like a newer M3 or similar. i guess it wouldn't do if we all liked the same thing. Personally I wouldn't want to buy that one for 87k either.... I know I could buy one for under a quarter of that I could enjoy driving tomorrow |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 3:18:38 GMT
Talk about light weight cars with not too much power is music to my ears. Bess has a VERY steerable rear down mostly to the engine and body weight being at the back and in dodgy conditions the rear can step out very quickly. As I found out on a roundabout in Guildford in 1991. Gutless on hills which I would like to cure but no idea how to get around that conundrum.
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Post by LandieMark on Nov 27, 2017 10:14:49 GMT
If it hasn’t got twin carburettors, then that would be something I would be looking at to give it a bit more oomph.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 27, 2017 10:18:36 GMT
50 miles a day limit is a bit crap and gives no time at all to learn the car. This, that would rule it right out for me. How can you plan a day out enjoying a supercar if you're basically limited to going no further than 25 miles from your home and you have to drive with one eye counting down those miles? |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Nov 27, 2017 10:20:00 GMT
That RS2000 is fabulous, one of my dream cars (that and a Mexico) - if I could get one for under £20k I wouldn't even hesitate, I'd be straight out with the cheque book. Unfortunately they've gone well beyond that now and while £87k is a ridiculous money, if you can afford the car you've always wanted, why not? I still can't get my head around it being owned and not driven though. What a waste. You can get one that you can use for under £20k Bob Someone I know just bought one for 15.5k -MOTd and driveable. It's not in the same condition as that 87k but then none of the ones we ran around in back in the 80s/90s were either. Oh now you've started something. Mrs. Sacamano will not be happy. Expect to see yourself cited in my divorce.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 14:36:43 GMT
If it hasn’t got twin carburettors, then that would be something I would be looking at to give it a bit more oomph. Yeah, certainly an option. Originally I had a a 38DGAS carb and a few little mods on my old red one. Whn I had the second one and built a 2.1 for it, was lucky enough to get a pair of 44IDFs as per the Motorsport kit from RS dealers. Probably put it it up to about 145bhp - no-one would cross the street for that now but it was certainly enough to outrun a 2.8 Capri ( which was still a new quick car in the mid 80s ) down from Camp to Avon Rise when Castle Combe used to do RS/Ford days
Re the comment about the racers wantin the BDA - very true - not cheap to mod though compared to the Pinto . My friend, worried about expensive costs and resale (even back then), never modded his road car....meaning it was only as fast as the much cheaper RS2000, just a different exhaust note. We were all envious at the time just for the badge kudos though!
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Post by Alex on Nov 27, 2017 21:54:37 GMT
50 miles a day limit is a bit crap and gives no time at all to learn the car. This, that would rule it right out for me. How can you plan a day out enjoying a supercar if you're basically limited to going no further than 25 miles from your home and you have to drive with one eye counting down those miles? That does seem really low but then I'm used to regularly knocking out double that or more in a morning. Perhaps around London it would take a while but why would you spend 8 grand to spend a couple of weekends a year sat in traffic? Seems way to much for me given that Ferrari's seem to be rising in value by that much each year. |
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 28, 2017 13:09:29 GMT
Hmmm. You have to insure, run and service a supercar over the course of a year. Then you have to look after it like an anal retentive to retain any value, which counts me out so a visit to the detailer once a year would be required. Financially losing £8k in a year knowingly is more palatable than not having access to £70k for over a year, paying more to keep the thing just in the garage for the days you might get to use it (remember I work in central London and have lots of kids to take my time up before cars get a look in, which is why I commute on a most unsuitable super bike because otherwise I'd never get to use it) then wondering if the £70k would realise itself when you decided you need the cash back. As to the daily mileage limit, the lower grade cars (an older Ferrari being one) have a higher limit; you can go over the limit and pay in fractions of a point per mile and clearly a weekend is 3 days of mileage.
Then we look at my own driving life. 7150 miles since 1st May 2016. That's around 13.5 miles per day so nigh on 4 times my average seems plenty. I'm not some "hand" that fancies himself as a retired F1 driver: I like cars and bikes mechanically and aesthetically and long ago learned that you'll never find the limits of a modern car on open public roads so don't try that. I can have as much fun on the Wandsworth one-way as I can on the D-571 in France and truth be told I have a gazillion times more fun on a motorbike than in any car: you know you're cornering on a bike in a way you can't feel in a car.
All that said, there's still five months and a bit to go so we'll see what I feel like when the sun is out and there's an E92 Comp pack in Red with extended leather for sale for sale 5 miles away from home....
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