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Post by ChrisM on Oct 3, 2017 7:59:43 GMT
M745 GT... with the "M" standing for Martin rather than Motorsport ?
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Post by PetrolEd on Oct 3, 2017 10:13:34 GMT
740d Xdrive M sport? I think a few dealers had pre reg/ex demo ones for £50k last time I looked. A lot of car for the money, just don't mention depreciation. If I had to get a car now, a 740d would be pretty near the top of the list. Buying new isn't as mad as you'd think, with a £20k discount and 0% finance. There is a fully loaded 750i M Sport (M Sport Exhaust, Executive Drive Pro, Laser lights, rear entertainment, HUD, Surround etc etc) for £55k that is really rather tempting. But I'm keeping the 535d for another year...... That 750i sounds chuffing awesome, you should buy it
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 3, 2017 17:44:29 GMT
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Post by Martin on Oct 3, 2017 18:54:01 GMT
If I had to get a car now, a 740d would be pretty near the top of the list. Buying new isn't as mad as you'd think, with a £20k discount and 0% finance. There is a fully loaded 750i M Sport (M Sport Exhaust, Executive Drive Pro, Laser lights, rear entertainment, HUD, Surround etc etc) for £55k that is really rather tempting. But I'm keeping the 535d for another year...... That 750i sounds chuffing awesome, you should buy it It does and I probably should.... But my mind is made up.
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Post by Tim on Oct 4, 2017 11:07:47 GMT
"The new BMW 6 Gran Turismo with its alternative style...."
That's one way of putting it!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 16:18:29 GMT
They recommended we both had that done - Audi Uk must have inherited a vatful from somewhere.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 9, 2017 13:46:16 GMT
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Post by johnc on Oct 9, 2017 14:26:41 GMT
Regardless of what people think about JC, I love his writing style. I also hate to agree with him that being a motoring enthusiast is becoming less socially acceptable.
I met the father of one of my daughter's friends in the supermarket last night and we had the same chat. He is a serious petrol head and recently bought a year old 5,000 mile M6GC for £50K. He had been contemplating a new M4 but when he specced it up, it was over £60K with discount and nowhere near as luxurious as the M6. He reckons he will have no choice but to get something like a Tesla or a hybrid BMW as his next car. He loves his M6 when he gets a chance to run on quieter roads without the family but he reckons that kind of car is already past its sell by date: he just can't get a chance to open it up to anything like its potential, ever.
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Post by Tim on Oct 9, 2017 15:12:47 GMT
Jezza is right about epic depreciation. They nominally cost £135k new, but both Broadspeed and C2C are quoting around £102k for one...
I don't think that's any kind of bargain at all, at 12 months old it'll still have lost another £50k or so!
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Post by Martin on Oct 9, 2017 15:26:25 GMT
Buying new is probably better than lightly used (until it's been out for a while) with such a big discount and 0% finance. I admit it crossed my mind, but only briefly as the fuel costs at 30k miles a year would be eye watering! The chassis trickery that makes Clarkson like the way it drives could be added to a 740d e.g. executive drive pro.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 9, 2017 16:09:26 GMT
Regardless of what people think about JC, I love his writing style. I also hate to agree with him that being a motoring enthusiast is becoming less socially acceptable.
I met the father of one of my daughter's friends in the supermarket last night and we had the same chat. He is a serious petrol head and recently bought a year old 5,000 mile M6GC for £50K. He had been contemplating a new M4 but when he specced it up, it was over £60K with discount and nowhere near as luxurious as the M6. He reckons he will have no choice but to get something like a Tesla or a hybrid BMW as his next car. He loves his M6 when he gets a chance to run on quieter roads without the family but he reckons that kind of car is already past its sell by date: he just can't get a chance to open it up to anything like its potential, ever. I was commenting on Saturday night, apropos a friend who had announced to the table that she had chopped her 12-plate RR Sport for a new Tesla Model X (white - urgh!) causing much chorusing about the appeal of Teslas, that I refuse to get a Tesla on precisely the basis that in the future that's all I'll be allowed and therefore I prefer to enjoy my fossil-fuelled petrosaurus for as long as possible. My wife glared at me!
Said friend did observe that she works in the tech sector where apparently it's almost de rigueur to drive an electric vehicle, preferably a Tesla. She said that over at her company's HQ in the States, they were all already on their second or third Tesla and that she felt bad saying that this was her first one (although they do already have a Twizy)
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Post by johnc on Oct 9, 2017 16:30:16 GMT
At least with a 760iL you can wallow in the misery of the depreciation with the knowledge that you are sitting in a beautifully sculpted and finished bit of engineering. I doubt that a Tesla P100D is going to fall from its £130K headline price a great deal slower than the BMW and with no/little discount and in fairly austere surroundings, I somehow don't think the smug feeling of eco friendliness is going to make the owner feel any better.
I have this totally irrational feeling that I must buy something that slurps fuel and makes lots of nice noises before I am banned from doing so.
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Post by racingteatray on Oct 9, 2017 16:53:04 GMT
I have this totally irrational feeling that I must buy something that slurps fuel and makes lots of nice noises before I am banned from doing so.
Amen to that and it's not irrational!
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Post by Martin on Oct 9, 2017 17:19:55 GMT
I was having a similar conversation with one of my customers today, he's sold his XF 2.0d R Sport and bought a brand new RS6 performance! He's also got a slightly modified 2 year old Golf R which might have to go as well plus a superbike, so speed is clearly his thing.
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Post by Boxer6 on Oct 9, 2017 19:26:08 GMT
I have this totally irrational feeling that I must buy something that slurps fuel and makes lots of nice noises before I am banned from doing so. I've got a lightly-used Subaru Legacy here, which makes lots of nice noise and drinks more than Oliver Reed after a dry spell! Yours for a ridiculous amount of money any time you like! (It will take at least two full sets of golf clubs though. Apparently. )
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Post by alf on Nov 1, 2017 15:30:54 GMT
What the actual f*ck, as a 'mercan would say. £1655 a year for a 535d warranty !!!
I hark back to the (£450 per annum) comprehensive - but with £100 excess - cover I had on the 330i with fondness, as I'm currently paying £100 a month on the XFR for fully comprehensive (no excess) cover. It sounds like times have changed and I have a bargin!
As I move within a year of the 100k miles point of my car, and with values having held up well, it is becoming increasingly important. I pay monthly and think I can keep cover beyond 100k, but will it be worth anything?
Personally I would not bother with a non-manufacturer warranty, I do not think they are worth it...
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Post by Martin on Nov 1, 2017 15:48:27 GMT
It’s bonkers. Servicing, insurance, tyres and warranty are all more expensive for the 535d than they are for the Boxster.
I went for the £900 option in the end and paid it up front, as I won’t be running it past this time next year, so paying more for the monthly option didn’t make sense. I’m about 8 months off the 100k mark, maybe slightly less.
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Post by johnc on Nov 1, 2017 16:25:35 GMT
It must be the mileage that's hitting the cost because mine was about £450 for the extended warranty
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Post by Martin on Nov 1, 2017 16:48:45 GMT
It is, they hike up the cost when it’s past 60k Miles.
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