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Mar 19, 2022 11:40:32 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 19, 2022 11:40:32 GMT
Time to book an appointment to get the winter tyres taken off and this has reminded me that one of the rear summer tyres on my car has a deep cut in it - this was flagged at the last MoT as a failure point. I’ve just checked and yes, it does - plus the tyres probably have at best 4mm and date back to 2016 (being what it left the factory with).
They are Bridgestone Potenza S001s in 255/35Y19 size.
Is it better to replace like for like given that I’m unlikely to keep the car beyond the end of this year? Or does it not matter if, say, the fronts are Bridgestones and the rears are eg Michelin or Goodyear?
If I was keeping the car for longer, I’d think of putting 4 new tyres on it and going for a different tyre with a better review but it doesn’t seem logical under the circumstances!
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Mar 19, 2022 12:00:18 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 12:00:18 GMT
What would make you opt for your car over the next for sale at the time? Might be the best way to look at this. Would you see four good brand tyres a better bet than mismatched front and rear sets?
Not so much to make the car better, although your last year in the car may be more memorable but make your car stand out for buyers.
Possibly also an anti haggling point.
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Mar 19, 2022 12:35:27 GMT
Post by Martin on Mar 19, 2022 12:35:27 GMT
If you're going to sell it this year, then I would replace like for like, especially as the S001s are are the lower end of the price range. Might just be me and it will probably make zero difference when you sell it, but I don't like having mixed sets of tyres and haven't done since I had a company car and no choice.
It would be different if you were keeping it longer. I'd be suggesting swapping all 4 for either the newish Pirelli PZ4 (which has been getting good reviews) or the P4S if you were happy moving away from RFTs.
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Mar 19, 2022 13:53:12 GMT
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 19, 2022 13:53:12 GMT
Are you planning on only replacing the tyre with a cut, or both rears?
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Mar 19, 2022 14:35:21 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 19, 2022 14:35:21 GMT
Are you planning on only replacing the tyre with a cut, or both rears? Both rears. I don’t want one rear tyre that is old and half worn and another that is new.
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Mar 19, 2022 15:56:03 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Mar 19, 2022 15:56:03 GMT
In which case I'd go for Bridgestone Potenzas again as a selling point if you are determined to change cars this year. If they are inordinately more expensive than other "reputable brands" then stick a pair of something else on, as at least it show potential buyers that you do take some interest/care in tyres.
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Mar 20, 2022 16:24:19 GMT
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Post by rodge on Mar 20, 2022 16:24:19 GMT
Bank holiday weekend here due to Paddy’s day and we had another public holiday on Friday. Cue me going out for ice cream today and getting a puncture. It’s the 5th puncture I’ve had in my 30 years of driving. It’s also the third one I’ve got on a bank holiday weekend.
The Mondeo has a space saver wheel which is now on the car.
I miss my run flats!
Will call into the tyre place tomorrow and get it fixed. They’re on the same road as my job which helps a lot.
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Mar 21, 2022 10:18:52 GMT
Post by Tim on Mar 21, 2022 10:18:52 GMT
If you lived closer I'd sell you the 2 Bridgestone rears that came off my 430. When the winter tyres come off I'll be getting some non-runflats put on so the Bridegstones are surplus to requirements.
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Mar 21, 2022 12:26:57 GMT
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Post by Andy C on Mar 21, 2022 12:26:57 GMT
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Mar 21, 2022 14:57:36 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 21, 2022 14:57:36 GMT
Anyone got any idea what difference normal vs XL makes? XL seem easier to get hold of.
I mean I have googled it, but it doesn't help me decide whether they are appropriate for a car like mine which is quite heavy without being an absolute porker, and fast without being absolutely tyre-shredding.
There is a suggestion that if switching from RFTs to non-RFTs, that XLs are beneficial as they are sturdier.
But not pinning down a satisfactory answer thus far!
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Mar 21, 2022 15:17:35 GMT
Post by Martin on Mar 21, 2022 15:17:35 GMT
Anyone got any idea what difference normal vs XL makes? XL seem easier to get hold of. I mean I have googled it, but it doesn't help me decide whether they are appropriate for a car like mine which is quite heavy without being an absolute porker, and fast without being absolutely tyre-shredding. There is a suggestion that if switching from RFTs to non-RFTs, that XLs are beneficial as they are sturdier. But not pinning down a satisfactory answer thus far! Is there an option in the correct load rating that isn't an XL tyre? If there is, I would only worry about the load and speed ratings. edit: Just had a look. It needs a minimum 92 load rating, so as long as it has that you'll be fine. Ideally with the BMW * on the sidewall, but that's not essential.
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Mar 21, 2022 15:40:29 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 21, 2022 15:40:29 GMT
Toying with idea of a full set of PS4S - that would be £671 fitted via Blackcircles who currently are doing a 15% discount on them.
By contrast the S001s would be minimum £360/pair fitted.
So for £300 tempted to just change all four.
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Mar 21, 2022 17:34:50 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 21, 2022 17:34:50 GMT
Toying with idea of a full set of PS4S - that would be £671 fitted via Blackcircles who currently are doing a 15% discount on them. By contrast the S001s would be minimum £360/pair fitted. So for £300 tempted to just change all four. Done. Should turn up to my local garage of choice and be ready for fitting on Thursday. Thought about having the alloys refurbished first and then decided against it. As it is, I think all four are lightly grazed on their edges, and therefore if either of us kerbs one, it's now just a passing moment of irritation rather than a full day's sulk.
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Mar 24, 2022 11:25:18 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 24, 2022 11:25:18 GMT
Well the tyres went on this morning, and have a trip to Suffolk over the weekend to bed them in. Interesting to see if I can tell any difference!
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Mar 24, 2022 11:31:01 GMT
Post by Martin on Mar 24, 2022 11:31:01 GMT
Well the tyres went on this morning, and have a trip to Suffolk over the weekend to bed them in. Interesting to see if I can tell any difference! Forum ban if you can't! I'll be amazed if you don't feel a difference. Have you bought a can of foam/gunk now you don't have RFTs or a spare? When the lease company swapped put normal tyres on the 520d, I bought some Holts Tyreweld (there are two sizes). I had to use it when I woke up to a flat tyre and it was excellent, got me to the tyre place without issue and they were able to clean it out and repair the tyre. Only about £10 from Halfords iirc. Edit: £9.00 from Amazon or Halfords, I'd buy a couple of cans and keep them in the boot.
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Mar 24, 2022 11:40:27 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 24, 2022 11:40:27 GMT
Holts Tyreweld is great and it's been around for years. I used it on my first Escort back in 1983 and it inflated the tyre and let me drive round for a couple of days before getting it fixed. My dad always had a can incase the caravan got a flat.
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Mar 24, 2022 12:03:55 GMT
Post by Tim on Mar 24, 2022 12:03:55 GMT
When I got the winters on the 430 I initially couldn't tell much difference but realised that was because I'd been driving so carefully with the summer tyres on due to the general lack of grip.
Now its warmer and I'm pushing a bit harder on favourite bits of road the difference is pretty clear and I'm looking forward to some summer tyres but planning to wait until we've been up north in a couple of weeks in case the weather up there is significantly colder.
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Mar 24, 2022 12:52:39 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 24, 2022 12:52:39 GMT
Yes, I know about Holts. The M135i was on Super Sports.
After doing some detailed reading online, I went for the XL versions of the tyres because it seems they are sturdier and it was recommended if you were switching from RFTs.
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Mar 31, 2022 11:09:33 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 31, 2022 11:09:33 GMT
So after a c.300 mile trip to Suffolk and back, I haven't detected any particularly noticeable difference in ride quality or tyre noise (albeit I've had the 18" winters on for the last three months so not a back-to-back comparison and possibly because the new tyres are XLs), but at the first roundabout on a dual carriageway (ie the sort that is well-sighted and you take with a degree of speed if no-one is coming the other way) the positive difference in turn-in and bite was enough to make me sit up and think "oh yes, that's much better". Just felt crisper and keener - like HD versus normal TV.
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Apr 20, 2022 11:20:29 GMT
Post by alf on Apr 20, 2022 11:20:29 GMT
Putting the summer tyres back on is always joyful for me - trying to press on in the dry on winters is quite epic amounts of comical/deadly (depending on how you are feeling) in the XFR. Driving both regularly you really come to feel how naturally the Boxster grips - and it would be great to try it on low grip tyres - but a nigh-on 2 tonne RWD super saloon very much needs decent tyres to feel right. The new Bridgestone Potenza Sports on the rear are quote extraordinary, more like a proper track tyre than anything I have ever used before except on my race cars, even in the damp they stretch my concepts of what is possible on such a car. They are not supposed to last, but they are a lot cheaper, grippier, and sporty in feel than the PS4S - and of course I get them really cheap I'm not even sure I want to put them on the Boxster, as even with humble RE050 on the rear it grips like a crazy thing, sliding it on the road except at low speeds is not something I'm comfortable doing- it really is extraordinary. It needs a circuit or airfield to know what happens when it goes Pete Tong in that car, which I do want to test out in safe conditions.
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Post by Martin on May 4, 2022 17:08:24 GMT
I've got a slow puncture on the rear offside tyre. It was losing 1 x PSI every 24 hours and not getting worse, but I got the local tyre place to have a look and they found a nail in it. They didn't want to repair it as it's lined with noise reducing foam but I asked them to trim a bit away, repair it and buy a bit of time. It's still losing pressure, closer to 2 x PSI every 24 hours now and there's a slight vibration which you can feel on some roads and it's worse at 75 leptons plus. Maybe they didn't balance it properly or maybe the foam is coming loose.
Whatever the answer, I need to replace it, which isn't too upsetting as they are down to 4.5mm and have covered 35k miles. As the fronts still have 5mm left and (I believe) a 3mm difference between front and rear axles is just about OK, I was going to just replace the rears. But I'd like to try the LR marked Scorpion Zero A/S tyre, as it's supposed to be better in all areas other than wear and they are rated A for fuel economy and 69db vs C and 71db for the Scorpion Verde. The Pirelli website rates them better for both wet/dry performance, the same for snow/comfort/off road.
As I've said before, I don't like mixing tyres, so I've decided to replace all 4 with the Scorpion Zero. Blackcircles wanted £1,220 for a set, but Asda Tyres were only £1,065 and they use the fitters I really like who aren't available via Blackcircles any more for some reason.
I wonder if I'll notice the difference.....
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May 4, 2022 20:05:03 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on May 4, 2022 20:05:03 GMT
I hope you do. Nothing like a full set of four new boots.
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May 5, 2022 6:20:47 GMT
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Post by ChrisM on May 5, 2022 6:20:47 GMT
If the tyre was repaired but is still losing air, sounds like something is wrong. Was it not reseated properly on the rim? Is it a bad repair? Trimming away the noise reducing foam shouldn't promote air loss
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May 5, 2022 6:56:56 GMT
Post by Martin on May 5, 2022 6:56:56 GMT
If the tyre was repaired but is still losing air, sounds like something is wrong. Was it not reseated properly on the rim? Is it a bad repair? Trimming away the noise reducing foam shouldn't promote air loss I don't know Chris. Poor repair, second puncture or maybe even a leaking valve. Replacing the tyre will eliminate the first two. You're right that it won't be trimming away the foam, but that's potentially the reason for the slight vibration.
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May 6, 2022 11:29:51 GMT
Post by Martin on May 6, 2022 11:29:51 GMT
I hope you do. Nothing like a full set of four new boots. Definitely quieter at motorway speeds. The car was really quiet anyway, but at 75mph you could hear some tyre noise which isn't there now. I've only travelled 7 miles though, got a 200 mile journey later including a newly (terribly) surfaced road which will be interesting to use as a comparison. Pirelli say these tyres have a higher wear rate, I wonder if that's because they have less tread new? The Verdes had 8mm when I bought the car, I assume LR had put a new set on, these have 7.4mm in the centre and 7.0mm at the edges. Not a hugely different tread pattern, but quite a few difference in the details. I decided to hold onto the front tyres and keep them as spares, as they've still got just over 5mm of tread left.
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May 6, 2022 11:37:50 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on May 6, 2022 11:37:50 GMT
They will be superb in snow with all those sipes.
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May 9, 2022 8:32:14 GMT
Post by Martin on May 9, 2022 8:32:14 GMT
They are a definate improvement over the Verdes, which is good because it's always really annoying when you spend money on a car and don't feel like you're getting any benefit. The wheels don't look massive on the car, but it did amuse me when I put them in the garage.....
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 9, 2022 9:09:30 GMT
^ Somewhere, in a McDonald's car park, a 19 year old is discussing with his mates how he can get wheels that size on his Mk4 Golf.
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May 9, 2022 13:55:55 GMT
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Post by bryan on May 9, 2022 13:55:55 GMT
It is one of the downsides of Mrs M leaving Asda, losing the 10% discount on tyres!
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May 9, 2022 14:06:14 GMT
Post by Boxer6 on May 9, 2022 14:06:14 GMT
It is one of the downsides of Mrs M leaving Asda, losing the 10% discount on tyres! Didn't know that Mrs M had left Asa, or that they did tyres!!!
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