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Post by Big Blue on May 26, 2021 12:27:55 GMT
If you get the chance read as many of the comments, quips and anecdotes as you can.
Nothing funnier this year thus far. If it wasn’t all so serious.
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Post by Roadrunner on May 26, 2021 13:21:04 GMT
It is comedy gold. A middle class Little Britain Vicki Poland rant.
Of course the humour is somewhat tempered when I remember that these are the people who are calling the shots in government.
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Post by garry on May 26, 2021 14:22:43 GMT
The bit I heard was straight out of 'The Thick of it'. Cobra meetings to discuss lockdown got derailed because the press office had to deal with a story about a dog! They then got further derailed because Trunp threatened to bomb Iraq.
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Post by Big Blue on May 26, 2021 14:36:07 GMT
The bit I heard was straight out of 'The Thick of it'. Cobra meetings to discuss lockdown got derailed because the press office had to deal with a story about a dog! They then got further derailed because Trunp threatened to bomb Iraq. Yeah - I had to run and tell W2.1 that one. But the funniest: "Johnson proposed having Whitty inject him with COVID live on TV to show it wasn't as dangerous as people thought". Couldn't make that one up in Private Eye and remain credible! They're back in for the final session. It's bat shit mental the stuff he's telling us. "Any random person from the top 1% would've behaved differently" and if you look on Twitter the "Spiderman" scenario has been saved for prosperity. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 18:32:56 GMT
Well, DC has had many hours of his favourite pastime, listening to himself. How he is taken even semi seriously I do not know.
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Post by Tim on May 27, 2021 7:59:49 GMT
He has to be taken seriously because he was at the heart of Government.
It doesn't matter how incompetent he may be (maybe he isn't, I haven't watched any), he was in a position to influence/make a lot of important decisions
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Post by michael on May 27, 2021 8:33:06 GMT
he was in a position to influence/make a lot of important decisions Except his argument seems to be that nobody listened to him and if he was in charge everything would be fine. |
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Post by garry on May 27, 2021 11:19:59 GMT
What is Cummings trying to achieve? I think he's trying to define his legacy as more than "That fella who drove to Barnard Castle for an eye test". He's trying to do this by bringing down a government, when in reality he'll be now known as "That devious little vengeful shit who drove to Barnard Castle for an eye test"
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Post by Big Blue on May 27, 2021 11:30:43 GMT
Conspiracy theories will abound that he’s using the committee meeting process to destabilise the entire political system (his comments about the choice being between BoJo and JezCo being a case in point) for his sinister puppet masters.
Personally I think he’d make an excellent study for a psychiatric thesis masters degree. He clearly has some form of complex that manifests itself into believing that in a cabinet-based parliamentary system a single person can drive alone.
He has made a valid point about BoJo’s obsession with the media perception (he said policy would be based on the day’s Telegraph leading articles) but this has ever been the case. If we did select a party led by someone that ignored the media pressure the country would probably have a period of utter disarray followed by some kind of normalisation period where if you called out wrong doing it would be seen as calling out wrongdoing as opposed to a politicised statement against either the wrongdoer or the wronged.
This also highlights the issue of using the time in government to remain in government as opposed to governing. BoJo is leader because he still represents the best face of the Conservative party to maintain its poll lead (doesn’t say much for other MPs or the opposition) and not because of his Churchillian leadership qualities (although the others tell him he has them in order that he remains leader and they stay in government). So in writing that I am agreeing with Cummings that the system is totally fucked.
But we’re not starving or being attacked in our beds at night so it carries on.
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Post by michael on May 27, 2021 12:04:14 GMT
By his own admission he failed in what he set out to achieve so he’s going about his hatchet job as he clearly hold fast to the Zuckerberg principal of move fast and break things.
I don’t think any of this will achieve anything. Much of the media response is looking at this through the prism of the highest death rate in Europe - this hasn’t been true, isn’t true now and certainly won’t be true in the future when the full picture emerges.
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Post by Tim on May 27, 2021 12:55:56 GMT
I think there might be one or two casualties along the way but if his aim is to damage boJo I think he'll fail, BoJo strikes me as one of those teflon sort of people that'll still be there no matter how bad he does short, perhaps, of murder.
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Post by michael on May 27, 2021 13:01:43 GMT
I don’t think there will be casualties as most of the people championing the word of Dominic Cummings were the same people calling him a liar last year.
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Post by Tim on May 27, 2021 13:09:12 GMT
It's just wishful thinking on my part.
Someone like Matt Handjob must have a few questions for himself though.
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Post by michael on May 27, 2021 13:53:16 GMT
Such as?
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Post by Tim on May 27, 2021 14:46:16 GMT
How far under the bus he's going to end up to keep Boris clear of any danger.
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Post by PG on May 27, 2021 16:59:37 GMT
I don’t think there will be casualties as most of the people championing the word of Dominic Cummings were the same people calling him a liar last year. This is the bit that amuses me the most. On R4 right now is a very serious conversation about what Cummings "revelations" will mean politically and so on ad nausum. Last year (probably longer since he is a Brexiteer) to R4 Cummings was the devil incarnate. Now he's the font of all truth. Cummings seems to be like the worst kind of jilted lover. I half expect him to capture and roast Dylin the dog. |
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Post by johnc on May 28, 2021 8:30:55 GMT
I don’t think there will be casualties as most of the people championing the word of Dominic Cummings were the same people calling him a liar last year. This is the bit that amuses me the most. On R4 right now is a very serious conversation about what Cummings "revelations" will mean politically and so on ad nausum. Last year (probably longer since he is a Brexiteer) to R4 Cummings was the devil incarnate. Now he's the font of all truth. Cummings seems to be like the worst kind of jilted lover. I half expect him to capture and roast Dylin the dog. Listening to him on last night's news gave me the feeling that he was a desperate man jumping from one allegation to the next in the hope that something stuck. I have no doubt there is some truth in what he is saying but I can't help recalling that the early day claims that the Government had initially contemplated using herd immunity when Covid struck were supposedly the idea of Cummings himself and others had to over-rule that approach when the death toll showed that wasn't a viable option. The man has no credibility partly because we never heard him utter a word when he was the main Government adviser and partly because he is now throwing everything out the pram and having a tantrum: neither of those bring trust to the public. |
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Post by franki68 on May 28, 2021 12:37:05 GMT
a liar lying about liars ,where do you go with that ?
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