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BMW i4
Mar 17, 2021 22:51:16 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 17, 2021 22:51:16 GMT
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 8:52:32 GMT
Post by Tim on Mar 18, 2021 8:52:32 GMT
Predictable.
Is there going to be a new ICE 4 series Gran Turismo along because I reckon I know exactly what it'll look like!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 18, 2021 9:38:01 GMT
With the environment it's not just about doing good, one must be seen to be doing good. I think it was Jeremy Clarkson who said the shape of the Toyota Prius was a large part of its brand - it had to look different (or ugly) to make sure people could easily see you were doing right by the planet. Thank god for front numberplates anyway.. |
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 10:30:55 GMT
Post by michael on Mar 18, 2021 10:30:55 GMT
How dull. It's quite a heavy looking car, isn't it? It looks like a less good version of what Lexus were making ten years ago.
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 10:47:16 GMT
Post by PetrolEd on Mar 18, 2021 10:47:16 GMT
Thank goodness for the ugly bits or it'd have no personality whatsoever
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 11:59:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 11:59:57 GMT
So sad they are copying Hyundai etc. Apart from the gob of BMW.
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 12:04:48 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 18, 2021 12:04:48 GMT
How dull. It's quite a heavy looking car, isn't it? It looks like a less good version of what Lexus were making ten years ago. Yes, the shape is somehow dumpier than the original 4GC. An MSport GC may look better on bigger wheels and without the eco tinsel. What I do find a massive improvement vs the standard 4 and the 3 are those door handles. Just night and day better. |
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 12:52:51 GMT
Post by michael on Mar 18, 2021 12:52:51 GMT
The shape of this and the 3/4 series is a lot less delicate the last one. There's a lot of visual bulk which will no doubt be matched by actual bulk. I can't decide if the eco-tinsel (TM Racing) is patronising or cynical.
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 18:16:15 GMT
Post by Tim on Mar 18, 2021 18:16:15 GMT
I can't decide if the eco-tinsel (TM Racing) is patronising or cynical. Yes. Both |
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 18:59:41 GMT
Post by PG on Mar 18, 2021 18:59:41 GMT
It must have an enormous front trunk. Or it is a really unsuitable chassis to make into an EV. Why else do you need such a long bonnet on an EV?
"Eco tinsel". Love it.
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 19:18:30 GMT
Post by Martin on Mar 18, 2021 19:18:30 GMT
This is how you make it look better!   |
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 19:26:16 GMT
Post by michael on Mar 18, 2021 19:26:16 GMT
"Our new range was inspired by a visit to the domestic appliances aisle in Currys".
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 20:13:32 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 20:13:32 GMT
More like a rodent farm. Beavers perhaps?
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 20:21:31 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 18, 2021 20:21:31 GMT
It must have an enormous front trunk. Or it is a really unsuitable chassis to make into an EV. Why else do you need such a long bonnet on an EV? "Eco tinsel". Love it. Because it's a Guardian reader's version of the 4GC, a car also designed to house a straight-six, rather than a stand-alone design? |
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 20:29:01 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Mar 18, 2021 20:29:01 GMT
This is how you make it look better! Where's Prince Philip and his unparalleled ability to "say what he sees" when you need him? |
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BMW i4
Mar 18, 2021 20:54:20 GMT
Post by ChrisM on Mar 18, 2021 20:54:20 GMT
How on earth does anyone think that those are well styled for the European market?
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BMW i4
Mar 19, 2021 9:02:23 GMT
Post by Tim on Mar 19, 2021 9:02:23 GMT
I expect the long bonnet is due to 'brand values'.
It's just the plastic bit at the front that's really offensive Chris!
I'm sure BMW could sort that if they really wanted but clearly its not worth their while.
As an aside does anyone know what BMWs sales figures are like for the last few years?
I'm sure they have sold in good numbers but there are an incredible number of them on the road with a plate starting with a Y. My 320 was YC63... and was a pre-reg (or similar) at head office so I'm wondering what % of their new cars are actually sold genuinely out of the dealerships you collect them from.
The 430 is DC17... and is an ex-management car.
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BMW i4
Mar 19, 2021 9:11:55 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 19, 2021 9:11:55 GMT
I expect the long bonnet is due to 'brand values'. It's just the plastic bit at the front that's really offensive Chris! I'm sure BMW could sort that if they really wanted but clearly its not worth their while. As an aside does anyone know what BMWs sales figures are like for the last few years? I'm sure they have sold in good numbers but there are an incredible number of them on the road with a plate starting with a Y. My 320 was YC63... and was a pre-reg (or similar) at head office so I'm wondering what % of their new cars are actually sold genuinely out of the dealerships you collect them from. The 430 is DC17... and is an ex-management car. Yes, mine starts with “Y”, bought in Edinburgh, as did all my short term Apex leases. They come through BMWs Immingham import centre and are registered there. If you see any BMWs on TV programmes they are generally on a “Y” plate as well. |
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BMW i4
Mar 19, 2021 9:37:34 GMT
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Post by cbeaks1 on Mar 19, 2021 9:37:34 GMT
It is the BMW UK distribution centre in Thorne. All their company cars and direct fleet etc go through there and are registered on Y* plates (Doncaster area).
It is some sort of approved used fix and polish centre too.
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BMW i4
Mar 19, 2021 9:38:54 GMT
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Post by cbeaks1 on Mar 19, 2021 9:38:54 GMT
They used to somehow code all of the company cars as retail with the SMMT so they had a massive retail share in the area that was total bollocks.
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BMW i4
Jul 14, 2021 15:43:09 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Jul 14, 2021 15:43:09 GMT
Hahahahahahahahahahha.
£70k
That's how much a Racing-spec i4 M50 costs.
Yes, ok a Tesla S is that and more, but really that's just too much.
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BMW i4
Jul 14, 2021 15:47:59 GMT
Post by michael on Jul 14, 2021 15:47:59 GMT
I'd have thought this was more Model 3 in size rather than an S. £70k is utterly nuts, though. Especially for something that offers so little.
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BMW i4
Jul 14, 2021 15:56:42 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Jul 14, 2021 15:56:42 GMT
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BMW i4
Jul 14, 2021 16:46:15 GMT
Post by garry on Jul 14, 2021 16:46:15 GMT
Does anyone pay £70k though? From discussions I’ve seen on here BMW discount heavily. Is that true for an EV? And is anyone actually buying these (as opposed to leasing). If it is £500 per month with zero bik then it might do ok with business users
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BMW i4
Jul 14, 2021 17:22:57 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 14, 2021 17:22:57 GMT
Does anyone pay £70k though? From discussions I’ve seen on here BMW discount heavily. Is that true for an EV? And is anyone actually buying these (as opposed to leasing). If it is £500 per month with zero bik then it might do ok with business users It might until the tax changes for business users, it can't be long before they need to fill the gap that cheap EV company cars is creating. |
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BMW i4
Jul 14, 2021 18:53:14 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 14, 2021 18:53:14 GMT
It’s the crazy world of EV pricing. I’ve just read that the Mustang Mach-E GT will just under £70k, the Q4 50 Voraprung is £66k and even more crazy, you can spend well over £100k on the an e-tron S SUV if you go for the Vorsprung model.
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BMW i4
Jul 14, 2021 20:19:51 GMT
Post by garry on Jul 14, 2021 20:19:51 GMT
Does anyone pay £70k though? From discussions I’ve seen on here BMW discount heavily. Is that true for an EV? And is anyone actually buying these (as opposed to leasing). If it is £500 per month with zero bik then it might do ok with business users It might until the tax changes for business users, it can't be long before they need to fill the gap that cheap EV company cars is creating. Agreed. But I suspect the tax will be an additional one that gets added on to drivers of combustion engines too. E.g just raise bik by 5% across the board. |
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BMW i4
Jul 14, 2021 20:24:27 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 14, 2021 20:24:27 GMT
It might until the tax changes for business users, it can't be long before they need to fill the gap that cheap EV company cars is creating. Agreed. But I suspect the tax will be an additional one that gets added on to drivers of combustion engines too. E.g just raise bik by 5% across the board. I’m sure you’re right, as that would still be seen as promoting more environmentally friendly vehicles. |
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BMW i4
Jul 15, 2021 7:57:43 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 15, 2021 7:57:43 GMT
Surely very few people are taking a company car now?
Our fleet has gone from 7 to 0 in 3 years - everyone is taking the cash alternative.
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BMW i4
Jul 15, 2021 8:01:24 GMT
Post by Martin on Jul 15, 2021 8:01:24 GMT
Not where I work. I’ve just been taking to a colleague who’s managed to persuade one of his team he needs his (current shape) A6 S Line so he can get a Tesla.
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