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Post by michael on Mar 4, 2021 16:29:25 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 4, 2021 19:14:38 GMT
That's a truly terrible name.
Almost as bad as the VW Cross Fox.
I'm sure it's excellent, but in that photo in that shade of green, it reminds me of a tree-frog.
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Post by michael on Mar 4, 2021 20:46:34 GMT
That colour seems to be popular. There’s a Macan and Panamera estate in that colour around here. The wheels are truly horrible.
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 4, 2021 21:37:31 GMT
I thought I’d love it but I find that rather hideous.
Why couldn’t they just stick the estate body in the normal Taycan rather then all the plastic body skirts that destroy the lines.
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Post by Martin on Mar 4, 2021 21:38:47 GMT
I thought I’d love it but I find that rather hideous. Why couldn’t they just stick the estate body in the normal Taycan rather then all the plastic body skirts that destroy the lines. I agree, really expected to like it but it’s a mess. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 5, 2021 10:55:59 GMT
If I ever win the pools and buy an electric Labrador I could be up for one of those. I agree it doesn't need the "Cross" bit in the name.
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Post by Blarno on Mar 5, 2021 12:16:10 GMT
What's wrong with 'estate' as a name?
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Post by Tim on Mar 5, 2021 14:19:16 GMT
So it's a rugged off-roader but it's got stupid, cheap looking airflow directing plates just behind each wheel.
The rear 3/4 view would be fine if you ditched all the 'Cross' accoutrements.
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Post by michael on Mar 5, 2021 14:30:33 GMT
It also has a towbar but you can only use it to mount a bike rack.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 15:27:10 GMT
Must be the Sumo edition.
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 5, 2021 15:44:44 GMT
What's wrong with 'estate' as a name? D'oh..... because estates should have vertical, or near-vertical rears Example: This popped up on my YT feed this morning, shame nobody makes a modern equivalent |
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Post by Martin on Mar 5, 2021 15:53:30 GMT
What's wrong with 'estate' as a name? D'oh..... because estates should have vertical, or near-vertical rears Example: This popped up on my YT feed this morning, shame nobody makes a modern equivalent My Dad had the saloon version of that car, same colour and spec but on an H plate iirc. The saloon had electric reclining rear seats which felt like real luxury as a teenager, it was very well specced overall with air con, lots of leather, heated windscreen etc. |
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Post by Tim on Mar 5, 2021 16:30:29 GMT
What's wrong with 'estate' as a name? D'oh..... because estates should have vertical, or near-vertical rears Example: This popped up on my YT feed this morning, shame nobody makes a modern equivalent 5 series Touring. E Class estate. They've both got a fairly steep rear window, certainly on a par with the Granada |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 5, 2021 17:54:21 GMT
^ The tailgate on the Granada Estate is not near vertical ( my dad had one). You don’t need to look far for one of the many modern day equivalents - the Ford Mondeo Estate being the most obvious, they’re almost identical in size and capacity.
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Post by PG on Mar 5, 2021 18:46:53 GMT
My Dad had the saloon version of that car, same colour and spec but on an H plate iirc. The saloon had electric reclining rear seats which felt like real luxury as a teenager, it was very well specced overall with air con, lots of leather, heated windscreen etc. I had the fastback / hatchback version. We called it "the motorised sofa". It was just so bloody comfortable. |
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Post by PG on Mar 5, 2021 18:50:05 GMT
Re the OP, I thought I'd like that more than the normal one. But it just seems to almost look like a caricature of itself. And describing it as "off road ready" must surely be some kind of joke? The ground clearance looks to be about 5cm.
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Post by Martin on Mar 5, 2021 19:10:40 GMT
My Dad had the saloon version of that car, same colour and spec but on an H plate iirc. The saloon had electric reclining rear seats which felt like real luxury as a teenager, it was very well specced overall with air con, lots of leather, heated windscreen etc. I had the fastback / hatchback version. We called it "the motorised sofa". It was just so bloody comfortable. My Dad had a 2.0 Ghia hatchback (E reg) which was pretty good but the Scorpio felt like a big step up in luxury. He still had it when I was 17, so I always volunteered to pick my sister up from her friends house. Very lenient company car insurance letting a 17year old drive and looking back, I’m amazed my dad let me. |
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Post by PG on Mar 5, 2021 20:53:34 GMT
I had the fastback / hatchback version. We called it "the motorised sofa". It was just so bloody comfortable. My Dad had a 2.0 Ghia hatchback (E reg) which was pretty good but the Scorpio felt like a big step up in luxury. I had two hatchbacks - the 2.0 Ghia and the Scorpio V6. Both were super comfortable, but you're right, the Scorpio was a step above. The ruched leather armchair front seats were something else. It's weird that Ford (and Opel with the Senator) lost that market completely. The cars were very good of their era and just so much better to be in and drive than the Sierra / Carlton / Cavalier next rung down. |
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Post by michael on Mar 5, 2021 21:13:30 GMT
My Dad had a 2.0 Ghia hatchback (E reg) which was pretty good but the Scorpio felt like a big step up in luxury. I had two hatchbacks - the 2.0 Ghia and the Scorpio V6. Both were super comfortable, but you're right, the Scorpio was a step above. The ruched leather armchair front seats were something else. It's weird that Ford (and Opel with the Senator) lost that market completely. The cars were very good of their era and just so much better to be in and drive than the Sierra / Carlton / Cavalier next rung down. Was nothing to do with the quality of the car, the Omega bettered the 5 series at launch. The problem was the badge. |
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Post by garry on Mar 6, 2021 7:05:17 GMT
Looks like Im on my own in loving the looks of the taycan cross turismo.
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Post by Andy C on Mar 6, 2021 9:24:28 GMT
I thought I’d love it but I find that rather hideous. Why couldn’t they just stick the estate body in the normal Taycan rather then all the plastic body skirts that destroy the lines. I agree, really expected to like it but it’s a mess. Agree with that too |
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 7, 2021 8:29:32 GMT
My Dad had a 2.0 Ghia hatchback (E reg) which was pretty good but the Scorpio felt like a big step up in luxury. I had two hatchbacks - the 2.0 Ghia and the Scorpio V6. Both were super comfortable, but you're right, the Scorpio was a step above. The ruched leather armchair front seats were something else. It's weird that Ford (and Opel with the Senator) lost that market completely. The cars were very good of their era and just so much better to be in and drive than the Sierra / Carlton / Cavalier next rung down. What was it about ruched leather? I’m reasonably certain I remember Dad’s Senator having ruched leather. And my W124 500E had ruched leather door trims. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 8, 2021 10:17:01 GMT
I had two hatchbacks - the 2.0 Ghia and the Scorpio V6. Both were super comfortable, but you're right, the Scorpio was a step above. The ruched leather armchair front seats were something else. It's weird that Ford (and Opel with the Senator) lost that market completely. The cars were very good of their era and just so much better to be in and drive than the Sierra / Carlton / Cavalier next rung down. What was it about ruched leather? I’m reasonably certain I remember Dad’s Senator having ruched leather. And my W124 500E had ruched leather door trims. It was the 80s, I had ruched leather pants. My dad had a Ford Granada Scorpio 2.8i hatchback and it was like a waftable sofa, packed with toys right down to reclining rear seats. I used to regularly borrow it to drive up and down to my job in Edinburgh and give it the full beans through the borders. When he started working in London my parents bought a house down there the Scorpio disappeared down the smoke and was replaced by a Granada 2.3 Ghia Estate - technically a pool car but one that seemed to be permanently based up here for his use when he flew home on Fridays. The 2.3 engine was really not the same as the 2.8, albeit when you look back the 2.8i V6 was only 150bhp, rather measly compared to today's vehicles. |
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Post by PG on Mar 8, 2021 12:18:47 GMT
What was it about ruched leather? I’m reasonably certain I remember Dad’s Senator having ruched leather. And my W124 500E had ruched leather door trims. It was the 80s, I had ruched leather pants. My dad had a Ford Granada Scorpio 2.8i hatchback and it was like a waftable sofa, packed with toys right down to reclining rear seats.. In car seats, ruched leather was to the 80's what quilted leather seems to be now. Can look good. Or can look bloody awful. Waftable sofa - great description. And probably a lot more use on today's roads than the "sports suspension plus no sidewalls" we currently seem to sold on. |
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 8, 2021 12:38:17 GMT
I suspect that's why the Lancia Thesis never really took off.
As mentioned, Dad had a series of Lancias as his office car and while the Thema and Kappa were more "normal" for their era, the Thesis really was a Rover 75-esque throw-back to the waftable sofa just when everyone else was getting all Dynamic/MSport/SLine. Big, baroque and squidgy, with overstuffed armchairs like something from a 1960s Jaguar. I remember borrowing one for a weekend ski trip and getting it up the Maloja pass was a bit of a wrestling match.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 8, 2021 13:20:08 GMT
I thought I’d love it but I find that rather hideous. Why couldn’t they just stick the estate body in the normal Taycan rather then all the plastic body skirts that destroy the lines. I agree, really expected to like it but it’s a mess. I read the name and thought, "this is going to look awful." I wasn't wrong! |
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 8, 2021 13:30:38 GMT
Just been checking up. Those "original" Granada Scorpios with the Cosworth engine had 192bhp. The later bug-eyed versions made just over 200bhp. I had a couple of early ones as free hire car upgrades in Scotland in the good days when I worked at/from Swindon. That makes them the most powerful cars I had driven for quite some years. Sobering that my current Kuga diesel makes only a few horses less. I wonder if I will ever get the opportunity to drive it from Dundee to Aberdeen to see how it compares to the Granny?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 8, 2021 14:57:37 GMT
It wasn't until 1991 that Cosworth upped the power from the old Cologne V6 from 150 to 195bhp. Mind you it still only managed 0-60mph in 8.8 secs.
My dad's was a D reg so that'd be 1986 I think. He ordered it after his old model Ford Granada 2.8i Ghia X was stolen from outside the flat in the centre of Edinburgh and stripped for parts (I'd walked past the empty space on the way to work that morning and never noticed it missing). The new Scorpio had to come from Germany and it went missing on the way over too - it was eventually found under a tarpaulin on the docks in Holland, necessitating a respray due to the scuff marks from it.
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Post by Tim on Mar 8, 2021 15:04:46 GMT
I wonder if I will ever get the opportunity to drive it from Dundee to Aberdeen to see how it compares to the Granny? Average speed cameras on that road now Chris so driving it in a Kuga would be the same as in a Mustang or a basic Fiesta. |
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