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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 6, 2021 12:35:18 GMT
Top stuff. Having rented a couple of the previous model it really is an unbeatable prospect to the family that wants a good, spacious, reliable car. I still can't square two adults with no kids having two SUVs as it seems like a wasted opportunity but realistically no other options work for us as we'd have to compromise and always be thinking about which car would be the best to take on any occasion. |
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 6, 2021 12:37:47 GMT
Two Suzuki Jimnys might work for the high-seated-less-space option.
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Post by Martin on Sept 6, 2021 12:43:43 GMT
Top stuff. Having rented a couple of the previous model it really is an unbeatable prospect to the family that wants a good, spacious, reliable car. I still can't square two adults with no kids having two SUVs as it seems like a wasted opportunity but realistically no other options work for us as we'd have to compromise and always be thinking about which car would be the best to take on any occasion. Unless you both need the same type of car at the same time, that's not a big issue / isn't going to take a huge amount of brain power to figure out and would surely be outweighed by having more variety in your automotive life? It feels like a huge wasted opportunity to me, but as long as you're both happy! Good deal though, especially the high trade in value being held until the new car arrives. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 6, 2021 12:53:36 GMT
How noisy is the CVT? Notably noisier than dual-clutch autos or conventional "slushmatics" ?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 6, 2021 13:59:02 GMT
How noisy is the CVT? Notably noisier than dual-clutch autos or conventional "slushmatics" ? I couldn't hear any noise. They seem to have tweaked the CVT so it has steps like a conventional auto so it's difficult to tell the difference. I think most people would be none the wiser. The Qashqai has gone from CVT to DCT and back to CVT again in the space of about 3 years. I never tried the original CVT but it didn't seem to be ideal from what I've heard. Our DCT works very well albeit with the very occasional hunting for the correct gear at slow speed when it's trying to anticipate whether you're going to stop or accelerate again. My first thought that the CVT must be cheaper but they are still using the DCT in the Juke. Perhaps the CVT gives them the emissions figures they are after? Anyway, it seemed fine to me and very smooth. |
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Post by johnc on Sept 6, 2021 15:44:22 GMT
Given the popularity of the current Qashqai it's hard to see how you could go wrong with an updated model.
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Post by humphreythepug on Sept 7, 2021 6:34:35 GMT
Funny how with the Kadjar which uses the same platform, engines and technology as the Kumquat and (I believe) is a far more distinctive design, it struggles over here as it's French, they tend to be better value too new and used as well.
We've been told, Kadjar II is now not coming until late 2022/early 23, I personally have a feeling that it may not appear at all, what with Arkana doing well and the fantastic looking Megane E that was launched yesterday, I think Renault are just seeing how that sector stabalises and how others flourish, it just seems an odd decision to delay it when it's pretty much a rebodied Kumquat so would be relatively easy and cheap to have launched either along new Kumquat or 6m later.
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Post by johnc on Sept 7, 2021 8:01:54 GMT
I have just looked up the Megane E and it is a stylish looker. I can see that doing very well.
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 7, 2021 12:57:19 GMT
We've been told, Kadjar II is now not coming until late 2022/early 23, I personally have a feeling that it may not appear at all ... and some of us wonder why Renault are not doing well in the UK ! It's bizarre, when I bought my Scenic, Renault were on the up taking IRC 10 to 12% of the UK market and shortly afterwards their sales started to nose-dive. The number of models sold in the UK has significantly suffered as a result, they really need a complete new marketing team and some decent advertising campaigns |
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Post by PG on Sept 7, 2021 13:12:09 GMT
I still can't square two adults with no kids having two SUVs as it seems like a wasted opportunity but realistically no other options work for us as we'd have to compromise and always be thinking about which car would be the best to take on any occasion. Unless you both need the same type of car at the same time, that's not a big issue / isn't going to take a huge amount of brain power to figure out and would surely be outweighed by having more variety in your automotive life? It feels like a huge wasted opportunity to me, but as long as you're both happy! Maybe you and your wife are planners and very well organised? When we had the Audi A3 (3 door) and the Defender, I did take the Defender out one weekend having forgotten to check that Mrs PG did not need it for horse / animals stuff. Her language when I got home was quite colourful. Maybe Mrs bob does not fancy taking the dog and her golf clubs and cart in a convertible :-) |
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Post by Martin on Sept 7, 2021 14:00:55 GMT
Unless you both need the same type of car at the same time, that's not a big issue / isn't going to take a huge amount of brain power to figure out and would surely be outweighed by having more variety in your automotive life? It feels like a huge wasted opportunity to me, but as long as you're both happy! Maybe you and your wife are planners and very well organised? When we had the Audi A3 (3 door) and the Defender, I did take the Defender out one weekend having forgotten to check that Mrs PG did not need it for horse / animals stuff. Her language when I got home was quite colourful. Maybe Mrs bob does not fancy taking the dog and her golf clubs and cart in a convertible :-) We are pretty well organised, but it's not difficult. Not for me anyway, as I plan what I'm using each day! Maybe it would be a bit more tricky if one car was a 2 seater, but we've managed sharing cars for a few years now without any issues and I wasn't suggesting Mrs Bob goes for a small convertible, just not a second SUV. However, if that's what she likes then she's definitely bought the right car. |
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Post by Martin on Sept 7, 2021 14:02:56 GMT
Funny how with the Kadjar which uses the same platform, engines and technology as the Kumquat and (I believe) is a far more distinctive design, it struggles over here as it's French, they tend to be better value too new and used as well. We've been told, Kadjar II is now not coming until late 2022/early 23, I personally have a feeling that it may not appear at all, what with Arkana doing well and the fantastic looking Megane E that was launched yesterday, I think Renault are just seeing how that sector stabalises and how others flourish, it just seems an odd decision to delay it when it's pretty much a rebodied Kumquat so would be relatively easy and cheap to have launched either along new Kumquat or 6m later. Despite being better value and better looking, it must definitely be because it's French and not because of how good the Nissan sales teams / dealerships are vs Renault!  |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 7, 2021 14:37:47 GMT
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There will "always" be an issue in the UK with anti-French car prejudices because they are seen as troublesome, whereas Nissans are perceived as Japanese and therefore very reliable (even if they are made in the UK)
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Post by Martin on Sept 7, 2021 14:48:04 GMT
^ There will "always" be an issue in the UK with anti-French car prejudices because they are seen as troublesome, whereas Nissans are perceived as Japanese and therefore very reliable (even if they are made in the UK) I was brought up on French cars (exclusively age 3 to 13) and they were all pretty good. |
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 7, 2021 15:19:24 GMT
A school friends parents bought a Renault 25 at the end of the 80s when mine had a W124 and a W201. My main recollection is how absolutely fantastically comfortable the 25 was.
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Post by Martin on Sept 7, 2021 15:26:52 GMT
A school friends parents bought a Renault 25 at the end of the 80s when mine had a W124 and a W201. My main recollection is how absolutely fantastically comfortable the 25 was. My memory of early cars isn't great, but the later Renaults my Dad had were great, especially the 20 TS which I remember had huge comfortable rear seats. The French owned company he worked for was bought by a British one and his next car was an Ambassador....thankfully he got promoted within a year, so quickly passed that on and ordered a 2600 SD1. |
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 7, 2021 17:21:38 GMT
Yes but in general terms, most Brits seem to have low opinions of French cars.
Way back when, one of my dad's company "wedgie" Princesses managed to unscrew its gearbox internals. He had a Renault 14 and a Renault 20 as hire cars whilst it was being fixed and their built quality and comfort was far above Leyland's. After he retired, the company fleet policy changed from BL-only to Renault-only but he never got to see the "benefit" of that although he was offered his last car at a bargain price when he retired (an F-plate metallic blue MG Montego)
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 8, 2021 6:28:09 GMT
I think I'll always admire the Qashqai. Nissan looked at the utterly miserable, sales failure that was the Almera and challenged itself to replace it with a sales success. Their achievement is extraordinary. They certainly scored a hit in the mumsy school run market. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Sept 8, 2021 7:49:07 GMT
Maybe you and your wife are planners and very well organised? When we had the Audi A3 (3 door) and the Defender, I did take the Defender out one weekend having forgotten to check that Mrs PG did not need it for horse / animals stuff. Her language when I got home was quite colourful. Maybe Mrs bob does not fancy taking the dog and her golf clubs and cart in a convertible :-) We are pretty well organised, but it's not difficult. Not for me anyway, as I plan what I'm using each day! Maybe it would be a bit more tricky if one car was a 2 seater, but we've managed sharing cars for a few years now without any issues and I wasn't suggesting Mrs Bob goes for a small convertible, just not a second SUV. However, if that's what she likes then she's definitely bought the right car. It's a right chew on working out who needs what car the next day, tried that, and it means you're tied to the plan you made the day before and it doesn't allow any flexibility. Anyway, much as I would like a Boxster or some sort, I'm not going to be driving it up and down to Hartlepool every day and if I take the BMW and leave it with the Mrs she's soon going to get pissed off driving a car she didn't really want as it doesn't fit her needs. We need to split the miles on them as well. I remember when the Kadjar came out it looked quite good in the photos and has a bigger boot so we looked at it at the Barcelona motorshow and then at a dealership and the reality in flesh disappointed. I think it looked better than the pre-facelift Qashqai, not as good or as distinctive as the post facelift version. It looks rather boring now and is due a re-vamp. I'm sure it'll be as reliable as a Qashqai based on the number of components they share and my experience with French cars has generally been good - my Citroen Xantia was faultless over 100k. |
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