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Post by michael on Dec 1, 2020 11:43:31 GMT
In Scotland, at least, and tax free! My sister in law is a dentist, she trained in Scotland and we know two of her friends, married and both dentists who should be in receipt of the tax free £1000. As their household income is north of £300k I doubt the bonus will even register but better they have it than the Scottish education system, for example.
When are you voting to be independent up there?
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Post by johnc on Dec 1, 2020 13:21:41 GMT
In Scotland, at least, and tax free! My sister in law is a dentist, she trained in Scotland and we know two of her friends, married and both dentists who should be in receipt of the tax free £1000. As their household income is north of £300k I doubt the bonus will even register but better they have it than the Scottish education system, for example.
When are you voting to be independent up there?
I hope we are never voting for independence again until I am too old to care. The £500 is blatant vote buying and as you note, going to be received by many who don't need it. There are many small businesses which have been ruined by Covid leading to people losing their houses and livelihood. There are many more who have lost their jobs or are on a 30% salary reduction. I know the medics worked hard but they got full pay and pension throughout and they were doing what they are paid to do anyway. I think there were far more deserving sectors. In any case, the money being used was given by Westminster and was intended to support small businesses. The Wee Nippy is a very smart woman though and she knows exactly how to play the game to gain maximum advantage. However the curriculum for excellence used in schools is turning out to be an educational policy that dumbs down rather than helps pupils excel. In universities the requirement to take a percentage of pupils from disadvantaged areas has now been set so high it is damaging. The Physics department at a Glasgow University is required to take 30% of pupils from disadvantaged areas - they get low applications from students in those areas and even if they took every student from those areas they couldn't meet 30% so they end up filling spaces with students from disadvantaged areas who didn't want to do physics but couldn't get into anything else and at the same time they are turning down very strong students from other areas who are desperate to do physics. They are not allowed to exceed the maximum allocation from non disadvantaged areas and the result is a high drop out rate and second rate students. The same is happening in other subjects. The state of the Scottish economy at the moment and the lower profits of businesses leaves even more questions about how Scotland would ever be able to afford to stand alone in the world without massive cuts to public spending or significant increases in tax. |
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 1, 2020 13:42:09 GMT
Are Scotland expecting to bankroll themselves if they go independent ?
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 1, 2020 13:51:56 GMT
Are Scotland expecting to bankroll themselves if they go independent ? Don't be daft laddie! |
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Post by michael on Dec 1, 2020 13:52:45 GMT
Are Scotland expecting to bankroll themselves if they go independent ? I think they've mentioned there will need to be some austerity but, as we saw with the Brexit debate, self determination is more important than money. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 13:55:28 GMT
It will need to be with the free money they are giving away to buy votes. I wonder if the fish is still telling folk they will keep the pound, bank of England and the nhs?
Dream on fish.
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Post by chipbutty on Dec 1, 2020 18:54:54 GMT
 So - who are they expecting to cover the shortfall ? do they think they will re-join the EU and they will pay ? They can't seriously expect a divorce from the UK plus maintenance.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 1, 2020 19:20:51 GMT
So - who are they expecting to cover the shortfall ? do they think they will re-join the EU and they will pay ? They can't seriously expect a divorce from the UK plus maintenance. I believe they will start by refusing to take on their share of the national debt. |
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Post by Boxer6 on Dec 1, 2020 20:36:44 GMT
In Scotland, at least, and tax free! My sister in law is a dentist, she trained in Scotland and we know two of her friends, married and both dentists who should be in receipt of the tax free £1000. As their household income is north of £300k I doubt the bonus will even register but better they have it than the Scottish education system, for example.
When are you voting to be independent up there?
Not tax-free as far as I know, unless things have changed since lunchtime. |
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Post by michael on Dec 1, 2020 20:51:06 GMT
In Scotland, at least, and tax free! My sister in law is a dentist, she trained in Scotland and we know two of her friends, married and both dentists who should be in receipt of the tax free £1000. As their household income is north of £300k I doubt the bonus will even register but better they have it than the Scottish education system, for example.
When are you voting to be independent up there?
Not tax-free as far as I know, unless things have changed since lunchtime. The desire is to make it tax free - an insane Pandora's box to open. Why should a nurse be paying tax at all will be the logical conclusion of that argument. I see she's also offering a £100 bung for anyone family with a child on free school meals. Utter madness.
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Post by Alex on Dec 1, 2020 20:54:56 GMT
In Scotland, at least, and tax free! My sister in law is a dentist, she trained in Scotland and we know two of her friends, married and both dentists who should be in receipt of the tax free £1000. As their household income is north of £300k I doubt the bonus will even register but better they have it than the Scottish education system, for example.
When are you voting to be independent up there?
Not tax-free as far as I know, unless things have changed since lunchtime. That's what I thought. Surely they cant overrule the inland revenue which is responsible for collecting the tax? Scottish independence is as daft an idea as Brexit but as we've seen, votes can often be decided on feelings rather than fact. It needs the Westminster government to sanction the referendum for it to be deemed legal so the chance of it happening in Sturgeons lifetime is as likely as the EU giving up the right to fish for British mackerel. |
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Post by Boxer6 on Dec 1, 2020 20:55:18 GMT
Even I know tax-free will never happen!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 1, 2020 22:02:56 GMT
Not tax-free as far as I know, unless things have changed since lunchtime. The desire is to make it tax free - an insane Pandora's box to open. Why should a nurse be paying tax at all will be the logical conclusion of that argument. I see she's also offering a £100 bung for anyone family with a child on free school meals. Utter madness.
She’s a crafty bint getting a double whammy making her look good and trying to make Westminster look like twats. |
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Post by michael on Dec 2, 2020 8:56:28 GMT
Even I know tax-free will never happen! And nonetheless that was the offer she proposed. Honest of her. |
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Post by Tim on Dec 2, 2020 9:13:51 GMT
The desire is to make it tax free - an insane Pandora's box to open. Why should a nurse be paying tax at all will be the logical conclusion of that argument. I see she's also offering a £100 bung for anyone family with a child on free school meals. Utter madness.
She’s a crafty bint getting a double whammy making her look good and trying to make Westminster look like twats.To be fair to Westminster they are perfectly able to do that by themselves. |
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Post by Boxer6 on Dec 2, 2020 10:22:42 GMT
Even I know tax-free will never happen! And nonetheless that was the offer she proposed. Honest of her. As Bob cited, it's all a bit of game-playing. Taxed or not, I'm not going to say no to it! |
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Post by PG on Dec 2, 2020 10:46:35 GMT
Are Scotland expecting to bankroll themselves if they go independent ? Don't be daft laddie!  I think the SNP seriously will expect a divorce payment and maintenance. And no share of the national debt. And to expect the BofE to bail them out if they use the pound. The SNP live on another planet. One in which every possible ill in the whole world if the fault of the damned English. |
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Post by michael on Dec 2, 2020 10:58:29 GMT
I think the SNP seriously will expect a divorce payment and maintenance. And no share of the national debt. And to expect the BofE to bail them out if they use the pound. The SNP live on another planet. One in which every possible ill in the whole world if the fault of the damned English. Surely the rest of the UK should get the divorce payment? After all, Scotland only joined the union as it was effectively bailed out. I hope it gets to negotiating independence we go in hard. |
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 2, 2020 11:21:33 GMT
Not tax-free as far as I know, unless things have changed since lunchtime. Scottish independence is as daft an idea as Brexit but as we've seen, votes can often be decided on feelings rather than fact. I thought it was now officially heresy to still remoan or otherwise suggest Brexit wasn't the best idea ever? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 14:34:39 GMT
I suppose fish wants all the military bases and units to remain within Scotland too? Something else for the one hit Wanda to hold us up to ransom for. Not sure how many Scots believe the rubbish fish comes up with.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 2, 2020 14:39:13 GMT
I suppose fish wants all the military bases and units to remain within Scotland too? Something else for the one hit Wanda to hold us up to ransom for. Not sure how many Scots believe the rubbish fish comes up with. No, they want the nuclear submarine bases closed immediately on independence. They believe it will be them putting the nail in the coffin of the rUK's nuclear defence system. Oh and they want their share of the navy, air force etc. |
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Post by michael on Dec 2, 2020 14:50:39 GMT
Oh and they want their share of the navy, air force etc. I can't see how they can claim this. As the Brexit situation showed us, you're walking away from a club and as Scotland was bought out in the first instance I'm not sure where there legal claim to a share of the UK resources comes from. Hopefully such arguments will be kicked into touch. |
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Post by PG on Dec 2, 2020 19:01:23 GMT
I suppose fish wants all the military bases and units to remain within Scotland too? Something else for the one hit Wanda to hold us up to ransom for. Not sure how many Scots believe the rubbish fish comes up with. No, they want the nuclear submarine bases closed immediately on independence. They believe it will be them putting the nail in the coffin of the rUK's nuclear defence system. Oh and they want their share of the navy, air force etc. I expect that if push came to shove, the Scottish nuclear bases would just be stated to be British sovereign territory, rather like the bases in Cyprus, and what could Sturgeon do about that? Invade them? I too hope that her demand for a share of the navy, air force, army etc would be met by loud laughter. We have the brigade of Ghurkhas. We could have the "Brigade of Scots". And as Commonwealth citizens can serve in the armed forces anyway, they could all just stay on where they are. Unless Sturgeon plans on leaving the Commonwealth too of course. Perhaps she should be asked that question? |
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