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Post by racingteatray on Nov 18, 2020 22:33:20 GMT
Bearing in mind that some 18 years ago I ran the 500SEC which cost £1,000 every time it was even just looked at that sounds fair to me. Must be something about 5.0 Mercs of that vintage. I had an extremely similar experience with my 500E. The main bits of the car were indestructible but it had quite the appetite for minor (and pricey) consumables.
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Post by Tim on Nov 19, 2020 9:09:15 GMT
I can't believe it's 18 years since he was running the SEC!
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 19, 2020 10:17:17 GMT
I can't believe it's 18 years since he was running the SEC! Yep: the boys were babies. Scary stuff!
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Post by Alex on Nov 19, 2020 18:22:08 GMT
That failure sounds very familiar to me given I'm married to an owner of a Panda! Small Fiats seem to be good at wearing out their suspension components.
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Post by johnc on Nov 19, 2020 18:52:42 GMT
I've just had a recall notice on my car - something about the breather for the petrol tank. All booked in for next Friday with courtesy car.
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 19, 2020 19:01:09 GMT
That failure sounds very familiar to me given I'm married to an owner of a Panda! Small Fiats seem to be good at wearing out their suspension components. Does your wife slow down for speed bumps and the like? Mine tends to treat them as an assault course, with predictable consequences. She was rather miffed that the front suspension needed replacing after on 21k miles, but I had to point out that not all 21k miles are equal, and here we are talking 21k's worth of urban speed bump-infested miles over seven years.
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Post by johnc on Nov 20, 2020 8:23:17 GMT
That failure sounds very familiar to me given I'm married to an owner of a Panda! Small Fiats seem to be good at wearing out their suspension components. Does your wife slow down for speed bumps and the like? Mine tends to treat them as an assault course, with predictable consequences. She was rather miffed that the front suspension needed replacing after on 21k miles, but I had to point out that not all 21k miles are equal, and here we are talking 21k's worth of urban speed bump-infested miles over seven years. I had a rather horrifying conversation with my daughter - as I slowed down to take a speed bump gently she tells me that her driving instructor has told her that it is hitting the bump that slows you down so you don't need to brake beforehand, just lift off!!!!! Who teaches these guys? I put her right immediately and she now knows but I am seriously grateful that her lessons are being taken in the instructor's car. My wife is on the same page as me and she ensures that speed bumps are not taken at speed in my daughter's car.
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Post by Tim on Nov 20, 2020 9:15:58 GMT
I've just had a recall notice on my car - something about the breather for the petrol tank. All booked in for next Friday with courtesy car. Sounds like a smooth and efficient process, you're not taking it to a John Clark outpost. Does the fact it's an M car qualify you for a courtesy car, last time I tried Grassicks in Perth I got offered a lift into town, nothing more?
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 20, 2020 9:19:22 GMT
Dealer dependent. When the Gorilla had a recall last year Vines gave me a MINI which is what made me go and buy one for W2.1. Cooper Thames Ditton wouldn’t normally even offer a lift.
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 20, 2020 9:31:43 GMT
Likewise Battersea BMW normally just offers a lift to the nearest tube station, which is a fast line into the City and works fine for me as I can just do the drop off and pick up on my way too and from work. Not had a courtesy car in years. However, the car's going in for a service and wheel change next Friday and I must admit that I realise that out of habit I completely forgot to think about asking for a courtesy car, even though this time it would have been very handy since I have to then go back home, which is not an easy route by public transport.
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Post by johnc on Nov 20, 2020 10:47:03 GMT
I've just had a recall notice on my car - something about the breather for the petrol tank. All booked in for next Friday with courtesy car. Sounds like a smooth and efficient process, you're not taking it to a John Clark outpost. Does the fact it's an M car qualify you for a courtesy car, last time I tried Grassicks in Perth I got offered a lift into town, nothing more? I don't think I am automatically entitled to a courtesy car but I have noticed that now I have an M car there is definitely more effort put in to getting me one. Just to add to the good service (from an Arnold owned franchise) I got another call this morning asking if I was Ok with an electric Mini as a courtesy car. I told her I was looking forward to it!
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Post by ChrisM on Nov 20, 2020 12:00:30 GMT
..... and I must admit that I realise that out of habit I completely forgot to think about asking for a courtesy car, even though this time it would have been very handy since I have to then go back home, which is not an easy route by public transport. Haven't you got a pushbike you can put in the boot before you head to the garage?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 13:00:11 GMT
There are some very brave, or stupid people who cycle in London. I have to admit the descriptive used by Murcan ambulace crews for bikers without bone domes is the quite apt, donors.
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 20, 2020 14:25:57 GMT
There are some very brave, or stupid people who cycle in London. I have to admit the descriptive used by Murcan ambulace crews for bikers without bone domes is the quite apt, donors. You what? I've been commuting by bicycle in London for nearly a decade. I refuse to accept that it is particularly dangerous for anyone who is paying attention and cycling in a safe manner. If you ride prudently (which means keeping both eyes out for potential risks), then you will be fine save for those exceptional occasions that prove the rule. The only time (touch wood) I've had a crash was when a fat Polish builder stepped out in front of me without looking on High Holborn one morning. But that could have happened anywhere. And I assure you I see many, many more incidences of other cyclists riding badly or having zero road sense, than I do of drivers driving badly or having zero road sense. You get cyclists who: 1. cycle erratically or down the middle of the road; 2. Weave through slower heavy traffic; 3. Ride at dusk or in the dark without lights or reflectors, and/or wearing dark clothing; 4. Ride with headphones in or while talking on the phone; 5. Don't look or signal before changing direction or turning; 6. Jump traffic lights and don't stop at pedestrian crossings; 7. Cycle faster than the posted speed limit; and/or 8. Quite clearly have not even a passing acquaintanceship with the Highway Code. I could go on. I've seen some extra-special muppets do all or nearly all of the above at the same time. So I am very worried about the government encouraging hordes more novice cyclists onto the streets of London and elsewhere, without any training or oversight. I think that's deeply irresponsible.
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 20, 2020 14:26:54 GMT
..... and I must admit that I realise that out of habit I completely forgot to think about asking for a courtesy car, even though this time it would have been very handy since I have to then go back home, which is not an easy route by public transport. Haven't you got a pushbike you can put in the boot before you head to the garage? I do but it's a hefty hybrid and I suspect it doesn't fit in the back without at least removing a wheel.
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Post by Martin on Nov 20, 2020 14:46:51 GMT
Sounds like a smooth and efficient process, you're not taking it to a John Clark outpost. Does the fact it's an M car qualify you for a courtesy car, last time I tried Grassicks in Perth I got offered a lift into town, nothing more? I don't think I am automatically entitled to a courtesy car but I have noticed that now I have an M car there is definitely more effort put in to getting me one. Just to add to the good service (from an Arnold owned franchise) I got another call this morning asking if I was Ok with an electric Mini as a courtesy car. I told her I was looking forward to it! That will be much more interesting than the usual 116i. I didn’t bother with courtesy cars when I had the 535d, always waited for it as they had food facilities to work from and provided you with either a bacon or sausage sandwich if you took it in first thing or a sandwich in the afternoon as there was a Bike dealership with cafe on the same site. It was different with the 750, I was told by the service manager they had the authority to do a lot more and they always gave me something from the demo fleet. It started badly with an X4 but after that I had 2 x well specced X5’s and a facelift led 740d. One was given to me when the hour they told me it would take was going to be 3 hours and I had the option of keeping it overnight if I preferred. It’s even better as I never paid them a penny, thanks to the service pack and warranty.
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Post by johnc on Nov 27, 2020 11:55:23 GMT
Well, I didn't get my electric Mini. They decided to upgrade me to a 5 door Cooper S instead. It is grey with black wheels and a black roof and has the JCW steering wheel and centre caps. I was very surprised to find it doesn't have parking sensors, climate control or heated seats (although it does have leather). It is riding on 17" wheels and the ride is more than acceptable. It is firm but well controlled and not in any way crashy. It changes direction really well although the steering feels a bit heavy and has a pretty good turn of speed. I wouldn't call it fast but it is quick off the mark and would hold its own against most normal cars. Even with 17's there is a fair bit of road noise but the darty nature keeps a smile on the face. It also goes round roundabouts flat and at speeds that require you to be very aware of other traffic. It is a very capable wee car but this one is lacking some essential FG that I have become far too used to!
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Post by johnc on Nov 27, 2020 15:03:55 GMT
Just got my car back after it had a software update under recall. All my radio stations have gone, my seat memory is lost (this is a big one given the amount of adjustment and the time it took me to get it right, together with steering wheel position etc), it doesn't recognise my phone and every other setting such as head up display position and brightness, seat and steering wheel heating and cooling all need to be reset.
Surely there must be a way to download all the settings before completely over-writing everything. Strangely my M1 and M2 button settings are intact.
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Post by Martin on Nov 27, 2020 15:14:08 GMT
Just got my car back after it had a software update under recall. All my radio stations have gone, my seat memory is lost (this is a big one given the amount of adjustment and the time it took me to get it right, together with steering wheel position etc), it doesn't recognise my phone and every other setting such as head up display position and brightness, seat and steering wheel heating and cooling all need to be reset. Surely there must be a way to download all the settings before completely over-writing everything. Strangely my M1 and M2 button settings are intact. I had exactly the same problem with the 750. You can store your profile on a memory stick, which I hadn't done, but wish I had as just getting the seat right (20 way adjustment) was annoying let alone the other stuff.
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Post by PG on Nov 27, 2020 16:54:43 GMT
Surely there must be a way to download all the settings before completely over-writing everything. Strangely my M1 and M2 button settings are intact. You'd think the garage might warn you that was going to happen and suggest you saved your settings. Or, heaven forbid, they decided to do a bot of proper customer service and they could save them for you. I feared that all my settings would be lost when I had the Jag battery changed, but apart from the sat nav history being wiped, everything else was still there.
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 27, 2020 18:43:00 GMT
Well, I didn't get my electric Mini. They decided to upgrade me to a 5 door Cooper S instead. It is grey with black wheels and a black roof and has the JCW steering wheel and centre caps. I was very surprised to find it doesn't have parking sensors, climate control or heated seats (although it does have leather). [...] It is a very capable wee car but this one is lacking some essential FG that I have become far too used to! You remind me of my mother whose Countryman Cooper S does have parking sensors and climate control, but not heated seats, satnav or electric folding mirrors, all of which she felt ought to have been standard on a MINI (albeit more of a Maxi) with an RRP of nearly £30k
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 27, 2020 18:46:18 GMT
Just got my car back after it had a software update under recall. All my radio stations have gone, my seat memory is lost (this is a big one given the amount of adjustment and the time it took me to get it right, together with steering wheel position etc), it doesn't recognise my phone and every other setting such as head up display position and brightness, seat and steering wheel heating and cooling all need to be reset. Surely there must be a way to download all the settings before completely over-writing everything. Strangely my M1 and M2 button settings are intact. Just got my car back too - it went in today for its 4yr/32k mile service. This turns out to be a "big" one so I am over £500 lighter as a result. Still, they found no faults with it which is good, and also it's now got its winter wheels on. And no problems with the settings for me.
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Post by johnc on Nov 28, 2020 7:53:32 GMT
As I sat in the driveway last night putting everything back to where I thought it should be I was somewhat surprised to find that my speed limit warning had been set to 165mph just 30mph short of VMax! Rather academic at that speed I reckon.
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Post by johnc on Nov 28, 2020 7:58:12 GMT
You remind me of my mother whose Countryman Cooper S does have parking sensors and climate control, but not heated seats, satnav or electric folding mirrors, all of which she felt ought to have been standard on a MINI (albeit more of a Maxi) with an RRP of nearly £30k The one I had didn't have satnav or folding mirrors either and that was exactly my thought too. I can understand it on a One or even a Cooper but the Cooper S should have a lot more thrown in even if it means the list price is £1K higher.
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Post by Martin on Nov 28, 2020 8:57:31 GMT
As I sat in the driveway last night putting everything back to where I thought it should be I was somewhat surprised to find that my speed limit warning had been set to 165mph just 30mph short of VMax! Rather academic at that speed I reckon. Also wrong because (I’m guessing) your winter tyres will be V rated so 150mph max?
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Post by Martin on Nov 28, 2020 9:08:56 GMT
You remind me of my mother whose Countryman Cooper S does have parking sensors and climate control, but not heated seats, satnav or electric folding mirrors, all of which she felt ought to have been standard on a MINI (albeit more of a Maxi) with an RRP of nearly £30k The one I had didn't have satnav or folding mirrors either and that was exactly my thought too. I can understand it on a One or even a Cooper but the Cooper S should have a lot more thrown in even if it means the list price is £1K higher. The Cooper S always needed the Chilli pack to have the spec you’d expect. I think it’s more complicated than that with multiple packs, fine for when you’re buying new, but does mean there will be strange spec used cars.
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Post by johnc on Nov 28, 2020 11:29:57 GMT
I just specced up a Clubman JCW (to get the full fat engine) and I had to add £9K of extras taking the price to nearly £45K.
I think that's pushing the price envelope just a bit too far!
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Post by racingteatray on Nov 29, 2020 9:07:03 GMT
The one I had didn't have satnav or folding mirrors either and that was exactly my thought too. I can understand it on a One or even a Cooper but the Cooper S should have a lot more thrown in even if it means the list price is £1K higher. The Cooper S always needed the Chilli pack to have the spec you’d expect. I think it’s more complicated than that with multiple packs, fine for when you’re buying new, but does mean there will be strange spec used cars. My mother's car does have the Chilli pack...it has various niceties such as xenon headlights, but just not quite everything she felt it should.
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