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Aug 26, 2020 20:15:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 20:15:20 GMT
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Aug 27, 2020 8:16:25 GMT
Post by Tim on Aug 27, 2020 8:16:25 GMT
But it's a proper serious track weapon slightly civilised for road use and all your friends will need to know that as they gaze on it in reverential awe in your heated garage from where it ventures out occasionally on those times you need to add a few tens of miles (not too many, mind because that'll screw the value as well as remind you that you should've saved a wad of cash and bought a normal 911 with comfy seats for your fat middle-aged backside to fit into and be less jarring on your spine) to let it be seen out in public so the wider populace can either ignore you or nod their head in quiet understanding. The purchase of this proves you know about cars.
Anyway the article says the rear wing will probably be toned down a bit for production and it'll generally look less hideous when the extra cladding is removed.
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Aug 27, 2020 8:48:36 GMT
Post by PG on Aug 27, 2020 8:48:36 GMT
Here's my new GT3 and and let me show you my penis. Surely, Porsche want you to think that with a car like that, you don't really need a penis at all.
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Aug 27, 2020 11:55:12 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 11:55:12 GMT
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Aug 27, 2020 13:31:54 GMT
Post by PetrolEd on Aug 27, 2020 13:31:54 GMT
Any knocking of the car or its owners who only be jealousy on my part. No doubt it'll be bloody awesome and if tracking floats your boat then it makes sense for Porsche to make a car with some fat ass wing.
Should we not be on mumsnet if we start comparing cars to a gentlemens appendage?
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Aug 27, 2020 13:42:22 GMT
Post by Blarno on Aug 27, 2020 13:42:22 GMT
Parted fool a money his and soon are. Only rearranged.
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Aug 27, 2020 14:08:35 GMT
Post by michael on Aug 27, 2020 14:08:35 GMT
I don't really care for the batshit-crazy wing but as it's a GT3 RS I'm sure it's doing something. I just hope they make another Touring edition of the regular GT3 so I have something to aim for.
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Aug 27, 2020 14:20:10 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Aug 27, 2020 14:20:10 GMT
The regular gt3 992 looks good ,I’m pretty certain (hoping) the rs won’t look like that photo ,it’s disgusting .
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Aug 27, 2020 15:18:34 GMT
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Post by Martin on Aug 27, 2020 15:18:34 GMT
Parted fool a money his and soon are. Only rearranged. Don’t complain, fools handing over their money is keeping you in a job! The wing does look too big and the bits stuck on look awful, but it’s not the finished car. I don’t get the hate. OK, some people buy them for followers on social media, just because it’s a GT3 RS or wherever reason, but that’s not the cars fault. It you don’t want such a track focussed car, then there’s the GT3 or based on what I’ve read, just get a Carrera at under £100k.
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Aug 27, 2020 15:34:14 GMT
Post by Tim on Aug 27, 2020 15:34:14 GMT
It's obvious that there is a lot of cladding on that car to hide the true detail. I don't hate it and I'm not jealous - I understand the principles of depreciation to my own car-buying benefit. However, it would be nice to look through the classifieds in a few years time and see one of these with 50k miles on it and in exactly the same way it'd be uplifting to see loads of Ferraris and Lamborghinis that had managed more than 1,000 miles a year. At least that way it'd be clear the majority were bought by wealthy enthusiasts who were prepared to use them. While that may be the case speaking from my own experience I have never felt really comfortable pushing a car hard until I feel that I understand it and that certainly doesn't come (to me, at least) in the first handful of miles. Something with hard suspension and grippy, wide, low-profile tyres always takes a lot of learning to me. Maybe if I had garages full of 500BHP+ track-oriented exotica I'd be able to jump between them like a true hand though, feeling the individual nuances between mid- and rear-engined as I went. Sadly my surname isn't Queef though
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Aug 27, 2020 15:41:39 GMT
Post by Blarno on Aug 27, 2020 15:41:39 GMT
Parted fool a money his and soon are. Only rearranged. Don’t complain, fools handing over their money is keeping you in a job!The wing does look too big and the bits stuck on look awful, but it’s not the finished car. I don’t get the hate. OK, some people buy them for followers on social media, just because it’s a GT3 RS or wherever reason, but that’s not the cars fault. It you don’t want such a track focussed car, then there’s the GT3 or based on what I’ve read, just get a Carrera at under £100k. Long may it continue!
As long as there is money, there will be plenty of idiots with too much of it.
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Aug 27, 2020 15:44:10 GMT
Post by Martin on Aug 27, 2020 15:44:10 GMT
It really annoys me that decent cars are bought and not driven or not driven much, just to preserve their value, especially when they are ones that are very hard or impossible for most people to buy.
I hope the bottom drops out of that particular market!
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Aug 27, 2020 16:13:12 GMT
Post by Tim on Aug 27, 2020 16:13:12 GMT
I hope the bottom drops out of that particular market! If anything it's going the other way. It's only a few years ago that a nearly new piece of exotica was worth a surprisingly small % of what it cost but now they all appear to hold onto their value quite well despite there being a hell of a lot more of them sold. Is it because there are proportionally a lot more wealthy footballers?
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Aug 27, 2020 16:33:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 16:33:33 GMT
I believe they are seen more as an investment now and like anything when value is placed on it, those who do so will continue to 'grow' the business and that's what it is now. For many people a car is a means of transport and nothing else but for a growing number who care to do so the market for the next big thing hyper car as just dollar or pound signs. Remember the market caught a cold when Jaguar had the XJ 220 and the F1 had it's production run seriously cut short so they had to go racing? There were lots of people who were terrified that Jaguar were serious about going to court to extract the price of the XJ 220 when the speculators were trying to run in the other direction and sell their build slots. What a pity those speculators with their names on XJ 220's were allowed to get away with it for the most part.
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Aug 27, 2020 19:37:22 GMT
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Post by Andy C on Aug 27, 2020 19:37:22 GMT
Looks like a test mule to me. Haven’t cayman mules been spotted with similar wings . Seems Pretty obvious to me , but I really doubt the production models will be that big.
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Aug 27, 2020 21:29:13 GMT
Post by Sav on Aug 27, 2020 21:29:13 GMT
I think a significant factor in the F1's production ending early is that McLaren had just started to use Mercedes engines in Formula One. It was alleged that Merc were not happy with McLaren producing something BMW-powered.
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Aug 27, 2020 21:46:10 GMT
Post by Sav on Aug 27, 2020 21:46:10 GMT
I don't think it looks that bad. It looks like a GT3 racer for the road, and if you see the similarities between the 991 Cup racer and the 991 GT3 RS, this looks like one step further with the 992. Perhaps its to counter cars like the GT-R Black Series, with has some pretty extreme aero.
The great thing about 911's is that if you don't like one version, another version will probably more appeal. I don't think it will be lost on Porsche how the market responded to the 991 Touring GT3....
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Aug 28, 2020 13:53:38 GMT
Post by franki68 on Aug 28, 2020 13:53:38 GMT
I don't think it looks that bad. It looks like a GT3 racer for the road, and if you see the similarities between the 991 Cup racer and the 991 GT3 RS, this looks like one step further with the 992. Perhaps its to counter cars like the GT-R Black Series, with has some pretty extreme aero. The great thing about 911's is that if you don't like one version, another version will probably more appeal. I don't think it will be lost on Porsche how the market responded to the 991 Touring GT3.... They did not sell many tourings,hence why the used price went through the roof. You can bet buyers who want to flip will buy tourings next time and the market will be awash with them.
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Aug 28, 2020 14:06:45 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 14:06:45 GMT
The bottom fell out of the market, that's why they stopped making road cars, they moved into race cars instead so the Merc engine thing was not that big a deal. The BMW engines still appeared in racers.
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Aug 28, 2020 23:03:19 GMT
Post by Sav on Aug 28, 2020 23:03:19 GMT
Arguably the Touring never really got a proper chance. It only got introduced with the 991.2, and despite Porsche saying the GT3 isn't a limited edition, today it effectively is. It would be interesting to see if they launch the Touring version simultaneously this time.
There was of course the 991.1 R, another Porsche Motorsport 911 with no rear wing. The philosophy was a bit different, but look at prices of those now!
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Aug 31, 2020 20:16:34 GMT
Post by Stuntman on Aug 31, 2020 20:16:34 GMT
The Touring was also only introduced later on within the run for the 991.2 GT3 cars as well. September 2017 if I remember correctly. I contacted the dealership on the day it was announced and was told 'extremely unlikely' I'd like a manual GT3 Touring rather a lot if I had the space and the money.
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Sept 1, 2020 11:33:13 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Sept 1, 2020 11:33:13 GMT
The Touring was also only introduced later on within the run for the 991.2 GT3 cars as well. September 2017 if I remember correctly. I contacted the dealership on the day it was announced and was told 'extremely unlikely' I'd like a manual GT3 Touring rather a lot if I had the space and the money. I had the option ,but I wanted pdk ,the opc I bought from had no customers order a touring .
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Sept 3, 2020 20:36:40 GMT
Post by Stuntman on Sept 3, 2020 20:36:40 GMT
Wow regarding that OPC. I would have absolutely bitten their had off if I'd been offered a slot for a Touring. I would have specced it with the same colour and wheels as my GT4. Sapphire Blue, satin platinum wheels and everything else black rather than chrome or gloss.
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Sept 4, 2020 10:41:50 GMT
Post by PetrolEd on Sept 4, 2020 10:41:50 GMT
The only tick they missed in the Touring was rear seats as it would have given a better differentiation between itself and the GT3.
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Sept 5, 2020 7:36:13 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Sept 5, 2020 7:36:13 GMT
Wow regarding that OPC. I would have absolutely bitten their had off if I'd been offered a slot for a Touring. I would have specced it with the same colour and wheels as my GT4. Sapphire Blue, satin platinum wheels and everything else black rather than chrome or gloss. There weren’t specific touring slots ,just gt3 slot and touring as an option .It wasn’t limited.
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Sept 6, 2020 21:01:53 GMT
Post by Stuntman on Sept 6, 2020 21:01:53 GMT
Yep. My OPC told me the same when I spoke to them. I was just commenting that it was surprising (to me) that none of the customers of your OPC actually ordered a Touring
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Sept 7, 2020 9:55:08 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Sept 7, 2020 9:55:08 GMT
Yep. My OPC told me the same when I spoke to them. I was just commenting that it was surprising (to me) that none of the customers of your OPC actually ordered a Touring I was surprised ,I think you will see a lot more 992 tourings ordered .
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Sept 7, 2020 10:50:36 GMT
Post by michael on Sept 7, 2020 10:50:36 GMT
Wasn't the Touring restricted to a manual gearbox? That's likely to have harmed sales.
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Sept 7, 2020 15:01:06 GMT
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Post by franki68 on Sept 7, 2020 15:01:06 GMT
Wasn't the Touring restricted to a manual gearbox? That's likely to have harmed sales. Unquestionably the biggest factor ,that’s half the market . I’m not sure but I also think it only became available for the second batch of the gen 2 models,but I may be wrong about that .
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Sept 10, 2020 11:17:46 GMT
Post by Stuntman on Sept 10, 2020 11:17:46 GMT
It was definitely only available for the second batch of the Gen 2 models, rather than being available from the start. I agree that there will be more 992 Tourings ordered as a proportion of the total. Regardless of value, if I wanted a 992 GT3 and was in a position to get one, I would probably order a Touring.
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