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Post by ChrisM on Jul 27, 2020 17:12:39 GMT
Will the weather cause any issues? Can Lewis get pole, fastest lap and the win again? Predictions in the other thread, please
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2020 9:17:10 GMT
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 31, 2020 6:47:11 GMT
Perez has tested positive for covid-19 so won't be racing this weekend, or next. I hope he's asymptomatic and doesn't suffer. Wonder who he got it from and I hope it doesn't spread within the F1 circus
EDIT: He's asymptomatic and apparently picked it up when he flew back to Mexico to see his mum, who had been involved in an accident that had hospitalised her, but Checo saw her after she had been released
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Post by Sav on Jul 31, 2020 23:20:20 GMT
One does wonder about Renault’s protest about Racing Point. What evidence do Renault have that RP had access to the design of Mercedes’ brake ducts? If that data was shared to RP, that would be a huge breach of the regulations. You only need to see what happened with the transfer of Ferrari technical data to McLaren in 2007 to see how the FIA punishes such actions. However, when Renault don’t appear to have such evidence, it’s merely an allegation. I think what particularly grates Renault, is that a smaller team is outpacing their factory team. Since Renault has returned as a factory team, they haven’t benefited from such status.
I think its been great to see RP near the front, the dynamic of the grid has certainly changed in 2020. So far some drivers have outperformed their machinery; I'm thinking Russell, Leclerc and Norris. Looking at Hulkenberg today, he should have been the driver that replaced whinging, inconsistent Grosjean at Haas for 2020. He might be a midfield specialist, but Haas is a midfield team, no shame in hiring the right drivers for the right situation!
I was watching the season-opening GT World Challenge race from Imola last Sunday. It was a busy old affair with 46 cars on a relatively short layout. It made me think how great Imola is compared to Monza. Imola has real corners, Monza is just straights connected to stop-start chicanes. Unquestionably the racing is better at Monza because of the long straights. However, since the final chicane was removed it means that Tamburello becomes a better passing opportunity than it was in the past. The chicanes at Imola have a better flow, something like the Villeneuve chicane must be brilliant in any car, but the challenge for the F1 drivers will be the scarcely believable speed they take through it, then the immediate braking afterwards for Tosa.
Herman Tilke must be pulling his hairs at the revised F1 calender. "Where did all my glorious stop-start chicanes and circuits with no overtaking go to?"
Proper corners, circuits that have a flow? Rocket science....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 11:31:41 GMT
I think Hulkenberg might still be a good move for HAAS. Telling quote of the weekend so far from Christian Horner, "....One of the HAAS cars, Grosjean, who else"? Crashjean getting in the way again.
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Post by Eff One on Aug 2, 2020 9:41:00 GMT
Pretty remarkable job by all concerned to get Hulkenberg in the car. He only got the call at 4.30pm on Thursday, in Germany - less than 20 hours before rolling out of the pits in FP1.
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Post by Alex on Aug 2, 2020 18:51:42 GMT
Well that was dramatic in the end. I was getting a bit bored for most the race but those punctures at the end shook things up. I bet Max wishes he hadn't taken that last pit stop!
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 2, 2020 19:32:17 GMT
Well that was dramatic in the end. I was getting a bit bored for most the race but those punctures at the end shook things up. I bet Max wishes he hadn't taken that last pit stop! Debatable - there was a possibility that Max's tyre(s) may have also let go on the final lap. The British GP does throw up some oddities over the years.... a wash-out ending with many cars spinning off on the final lap, Scheckter wiping out about half of the field, Schumacher winning in the pits and now Hamilton winning on 3 tyres
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Post by Alex on Aug 3, 2020 7:51:27 GMT
Well that was dramatic in the end. I was getting a bit bored for most the race but those punctures at the end shook things up. I bet Max wishes he hadn't taken that last pit stop! Debatable - there was a possibility that Max's tyre(s) may have also let go on the final lap. The British GP does throw up some oddities over the years.... a wash-out ending with many cars spinning off on the final lap, Scheckter wiping out about half of the field, Schumacher winning in the pits and now Hamilton winning on 3 tyres Having watched the post mortem Christian Horner reckons Max's tyres were on the brink of failure but you never know, they may just have held on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 9:27:29 GMT
Better 18 points and fastest lap than zero so I reckon they made the right call. I really want to know how the 'f' Crashjean is still in a car and what is happening behind the scenes top relieve him of his superlicense. Two warnings for moving in the breaking zone and he still thinks he did nothing wrong. How many other episodes in the one race?
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Post by scouse on Aug 3, 2020 9:52:01 GMT
Debatable - there was a possibility that Max's tyre(s) may have also let go on the final lap. The British GP does throw up some oddities over the years.... a wash-out ending with many cars spinning off on the final lap, Scheckter wiping out about half of the field, Schumacher winning in the pits and now Hamilton winning on 3 tyres Having watched the post mortem Christian Horner reckons Max's tyres were on the brink of failure but you never know, they may just have held on. Very possible since Sainz's let go on the last lap as well. It still doesn't answer why Mercedes didn't change Hamilton's as soon as they saw the redbull enter the pitlane though, but he won so what do we know?
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Post by Eff One on Aug 3, 2020 12:18:44 GMT
A disappointing race made worse by the tyre failures which effectively took Bottas out of the title fight and denied Sainz his hard-earned P4. I was really looking forward to seeing how Hulkenberg got on, too - how gutting was that?
It was enlivened by the Mclaren/Renault battle - it looks like 2018-spec Ocon has returned - and Gasly, who beat three faster cars on merit.
And fuck me, what a waste of a seat Lance Stroll is. That car should have qualified on the second row and finished on the podium.
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Post by johnc on Aug 3, 2020 12:24:33 GMT
I reckon Mercedes made a mistake not changing Hamilton's tyres when Verstappen pitted - they could have guaranteed themselves the win whereas if Hamilton's tyres had let go a couple of corners earlier, Verstappen would have beaten him. It was a poor decision when they had nothing to lose by changing tyres but everything to lose by staying out.
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Post by Tim on Aug 3, 2020 13:12:42 GMT
I actually watched some of the race yesterday, probably the first time for 2 or 3 years. It was a bit of a snoozathon apart from the punctures.
What is the point of Grosjean though, does he have incriminating pictures of a lot of senior people? How else can he keep his job.
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Post by Martin on Aug 3, 2020 13:29:55 GMT
The first lap was good and I was on the edge of my seat at the end, but agree it was dull in-between. Hopefully the 2 stop strategy that teams are likely to all go for next weekend will liven it up a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 13:39:41 GMT
I actually watched some of the race yesterday, probably the first time for 2 or 3 years. It was a bit of a snoozathon apart from the punctures. What is the point of Grosjean though, does he have incriminating pictures of a lot of senior people? How else can he keep his job. No idea but I have emailed the FIA asking what his con is.
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 3, 2020 16:18:13 GMT
..... fuck me, what a waste of a seat Lance Stroll is. That car should have qualified on the second row and finished on the podium. Apparently he has very little idea on how to set the car up, so with Perez out, he was struggling. Hulkenberg being a "last minute" call-up was either unable or unwilling to share data, so it was all down to Stroll to set his own car up
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 18:36:50 GMT
Daddy owns the team so he will stay. I would really like to see an academy of testers to give rookies a thorough testing before the are allowed to race made up of ex F1 drivers. No chance it will ever happen though.
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Post by ChrisM on Aug 3, 2020 19:20:39 GMT
^ Could get more interesting next year, if the rumours of Vettel being the Number 1 driver at Racing Point, Aston martin or whatever they will call themselves are true
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Post by Alex on Aug 3, 2020 19:51:50 GMT
Having watched the post mortem Christian Horner reckons Max's tyres were on the brink of failure but you never know, they may just have held on. Very possible since Sainz's let go on the last lap as well. It still doesn't answer why Mercedes didn't change Hamilton's as soon as they saw the redbull enter the pitlane though, but he won so what do we know? Hamilton was in front of Max so would of had to have pitted first, at which point Max Max probably would have stayed out and gone for the win.
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Post by Sav on Aug 3, 2020 21:00:49 GMT
I hate the sudden moving in the braking zone. It’s not really the fault of the stewards, they apply the rules they have. The philosophy of the current rules isn’t tough enough on erratic blocks thrown at the last second. It’s an acute problem with DRS, because the closing speed is much greater compared to what it was in the past. I have more of an issue with Grosjean’s late blocks, rather than someone spinning some out at a 50 mph chicane. The latter is clumsy, the former is asking for a huge shunt.
The whole tyre situation happened because of Kyvat's crash. Nobody who started the race on the Medium compound had planned to pit so early on lap 13, but they felt like they had to. Pitting under green would have meant a lot of positions lost. Thats why the middle part of the race was dull. It was shaping up to be decent, with different drivers on different compounds, I have no doubt the strategies would have converged and gave us good racing. But when Kyvat's crash happened, everybody did the same thing, everyone had the same age tyres. Note how Grosjean had no tyre issues, because he pitted when everyone else ordinarily have without the second Safety Car period.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 21:03:23 GMT
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Post by Sav on Aug 3, 2020 21:11:54 GMT
Apparently the Ferrari is so slow that the team removed some of the downforce creating bits to make it faster down the straights but obviously more skittish in the corners. LeClerc adapted to this set up straight away but Vettel couldn't, hence his lowly position. That pretty much sums up current F1 cars since 2017. They have a lot more drag now, the full-throttle percentage is higher than ever before, so that means power has become ever important. The 2020 Ferrari unit has lost power after Ferrari's trick with the FIA sensor got sussed. Its really the issue that Red Bull used to have with the Renault powertrain, they were having to trim the car out. But someone like Ricciardo would get good results in the race. Vettel has always preferred a more stable car on corner entry, taking away downforce is precisely what he doesn't want.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 22:19:24 GMT
Grosjean must be seriously deluded. www.autosport.com/f1/news/151037/grosjean-has-no-regrets-over-defensive-movesYes, Max has got away with some seriously dodgy stuff but Grosjean is not a Max or Lewis or anyone else. Perhaps a pinochio of racing drivers but that is about it. No it's not fair but then again we should have much more consistent penalties with the FIA rep taking problem drivers out of a race and removing the issue from local decision making. I really think this low ability requires nothing less than a removal of a super license.
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Post by Sav on Aug 8, 2020 18:34:41 GMT
Hulkenberg, just wow. Pretty embarrassing for Stroll, someone jumps into the RP and outpaces him despite not having tested the car. I asked last week why Haas didn’t sign Hulk, I think it was a blessing for him. Better to advertise yourself on the second row, rather than languishing in Q1 and barley getting into Q2! Hulkenberg’s start will be interesting, he hasn’t gone through a race start since last year in Abu Dhabi, and he has some punchy customers behind him.
George Russell’s lap to get into Q2 was just fantastic. His lap was as close to perfection as it gets, it was neat and tidy, but he was aggressive coming out of Chapel but not beyond the limit. Take Stroll out of the RP and put Russell in there. Stroll isn’t terrible, but evidently there are better drivers that can get the most out of that car.
Interesting from Red Bull to start the race on this weekend’s Hard tyre. I don’t think it will gain them an advantage over Mercedes; the latter will just pit both of their cars earlier in what will be a multi-pitstop race for everyone. That will allow them an undercut at every pitstop.
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Post by Andy C on Aug 9, 2020 9:55:30 GMT
You know f1 is bad when F2 is more exciting
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 10:32:26 GMT
Is F2 on free view tv anywhere?
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Post by Sav on Aug 9, 2020 18:30:03 GMT
You know f1 is bad when F2 is more exciting Indeed. The softer compounds might have allowed a different winner, but the consequence was terrible racing throughout the field. Everyone was trundling about, just waiting until the pitstops. Last week, the drivers could make sustained attacks for a number of laps, something which is critical for today’s cars that have so much turbulence. F2 has been terrible for years, mind it was quite amusing today when Mick Schumacher tripped up over his teammate into Brooklands.
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Post by Alex on Aug 10, 2020 11:45:55 GMT
Case in point yesterday was the way Hamilton was able to take second from Bottas as if he was swiping a lollipop from an infant despite Bottas tyres being less than 20 laps older. Obviously Hamilton should benefit from newer tyres but not by that much. The Red Bulls seemed to cope pretty well with these compounds but everyone else really struggled.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 15:44:45 GMT
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