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Post by Andy C on Jun 12, 2020 21:00:52 GMT
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 12, 2020 21:24:57 GMT
The price of 570s or GT McLarens are so tempting. The are fantastic Value but you’ll really need to negotiate with the dealer on adding multiple years of warranty cover. I wouldn’t have the balls to run one out of cover.
If I wanted to run a car that wasn’t going to cost much to run and have zero depreciation I’d be getting into a 997 GT3.
New GT4, depending on how well you get on with your OPC?
R8’s are nice but you’ll probably bore of it after a couple of years.
NSX is a good shout but who knows how they’ll add up residually.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 12, 2020 22:31:41 GMT
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 12, 2020 22:41:40 GMT
Happy birthday. 1968 was a great year. Also you share a birthday with a former member of this parish, Mr K but we’re two years younger.
Get a 2-seat Ferrari and run it for two years. You’ll probably keep your money if you buy a used F430. Then buy a new Porsche. Otherwise you’ll be 60 and not have had one.
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Post by Sav on Jun 12, 2020 22:48:41 GMT
That would be my choice. It surely can't get better than a GT 911 with a non-particulate filter flat six revving until 9,000 rpm. A lot of the other choices will just depreciate a lot, including other 911's, the GT3 won't to the same extent. |
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Post by Sav on Jun 12, 2020 22:54:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 23:06:29 GMT
The 911's seem to be the safer place to put money car wise.
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Post by franki68 on Jun 13, 2020 8:41:35 GMT
If an r8 is too wide you can exclude the amg gt and most Ferraris.
The Mclaren’s are very tempting but there currently seems no end to their depreciation and running costs are significant ,along with reliability questions and when they do go wrong how long they take to fix .
The aston is a good choice ,it would be mine if I wanted a less focussed car than the gt3,a 911 or cayman/boxster gts are great as well.
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 13, 2020 9:11:01 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 13, 2020 9:42:51 GMT
I must be the only one who would much prefer a "normal" Carrera to any of the stripped-out GT versions. I can get with the GTS versions and did very much like the 997 R, but beyond that, the appeal drops off for reasons I can't quite explain.
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 13, 2020 9:52:58 GMT
Size-wise, certainly a Boxster is a skinny jim compared to the rest, but a McLaren 650S doesn't seem appreciably bigger than a 992, and an R8 and a Vantage seem to have a very similar footprint:
Boxster GTS: L-4404, W-1801, H-1273
R8: L-4426, W-1940, H-1240
Vantage: L-4465, W-1942, H-1273
650S Spider: L-4511, W-1895, H-1199
992 - L4519, W-1900, H-1289
California: L-4570, W-1910, H-1322
DB11: L-4793, W-1940, H-1279
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Post by michael on Jun 13, 2020 10:33:13 GMT
I must be the only one who would much prefer a "normal" Carrera to any of the stripped-out GT versions. I can get with the GTS versions and did very much like the 997 R, but beyond that, the appeal drops off for reasons I can't quite explain. You’re not the only one. Track weapons rarely have any appeal, much prefer a more car like car. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 13, 2020 11:14:29 GMT
I'd say it was early-onset middle-age now that I'm the wrong side of 40, but in fact I've always preferred "car-like cars" as you put it, ever since I can remember.
I think it might be a purity of design thing. For example, I love the F40 and am also quite partial to the F50, both of which have whopping wings on the backs, but the point is that they were designed that way and the wings are an integral part of the basic design, rather than being bolted-on.
That and not being particularly prone to Queefery.
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Post by franki68 on Jun 13, 2020 11:23:27 GMT
Size-wise, certainly a Boxster is a skinny jim compared to the rest, but a McLaren 650S doesn't seem appreciably bigger than a 992, and an R8 and a Vantage seem to have a very similar footprint: Boxster GTS: L-4404, W-1801, H-1273 R8: L-4426, W-1940, H-1240 Vantage: L-4465, W-1942, H-1273 650S Spider: L-4511, W-1895, H-1199 992 - L4519, W-1900, H-1289 California: L-4570, W-1910, H-1322 DB11: L-4793, W-1940, H-1279 I think there is a bit more too how wide a car feels than just its dimensions ,how you sit in it and things like the length of the bonnet all contribute. McLarens have great visibility ,Porsche’s have as well, |
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Post by Alex on Jun 13, 2020 12:19:16 GMT
I must be the only one who would much prefer a "normal" Carrera to any of the stripped-out GT versions. I can get with the GTS versions and did very much like the 997 R, but beyond that, the appeal drops off for reasons I can't quite explain. You’re not the only one. Track weapons rarely have any appeal, much prefer a more car like car. Perhaps it comes from the car magazines extolling them as being the ultimate incarnation whilst ignoring the fact that most of us mere mortals would struggle to get to the limits of a C4S let alone a GT3. |
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Post by garry on Jun 13, 2020 13:07:56 GMT
I must be the only one who would much prefer a "normal" Carrera to any of the stripped-out GT versions. I can get with the GTS versions and did very much like the 997 R, but beyond that, the appeal drops off for reasons I can't quite explain. You’re not the only one. Track weapons rarely have any appeal, much prefer a more car like car. Same here. For me it’s the fact that the performance is beyond what you can reasonably use on the road. I guess the same case could be made about a base 911, but I get plenty of opportunity to red line it. Much more performance and I wouldn’t. |
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Post by garry on Jun 13, 2020 13:10:54 GMT
Size-wise, certainly a Boxster is a skinny jim compared to the rest, but a McLaren 650S doesn't seem appreciably bigger than a 992, and an R8 and a Vantage seem to have a very similar footprint: Boxster GTS: L-4404, W-1801, H-1273 R8: L-4426, W-1940, H-1240 Vantage: L-4465, W-1942, H-1273 650S Spider: L-4511, W-1895, H-1199 992 - L4519, W-1900, H-1289 California: L-4570, W-1910, H-1322 DB11: L-4793, W-1940, H-1279 I think there is a bit more too how wide a car feels than just its dimensions ,how you sit in it and things like the length of the bonnet all contribute. McLarens have great visibility ,Porsche’s have as well, Yep. I was surprised by these numbers. A 911 feels small and fits well on uk B roads. The r8 I drove was way more intimidating. |
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Post by garry on Jun 13, 2020 13:21:24 GMT
If an r8 is too wide you can exclude the amg gt and most Ferraris. The Mclaren’s are very tempting but there currently seems no end to their depreciation and running costs are significant ,along with reliability questions and when they do go wrong how long they take to fix . The aston is a good choice ,it would be mine if I wanted a less focussed car than the gt3,a 911 or cayman/boxster gts are great as well. That’s where my mind is at. The huge caveat being that I’ve not driven the vantage in latest guise and didn’t rate the previous version. |
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Post by racingteatray on Jun 13, 2020 13:32:08 GMT
Could you live with the front-end styling? I would have to fork out extra for that Revenant front grille, because I can't stand the standard front end.
I also don't much care for the interior of the current Vantage. Like a late 1990s JVC stack system.
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Post by garry on Jun 13, 2020 13:35:25 GMT
Could you live with the front-end styling? I would have to fork out extra for that Revenant front grille, because I can't stand the standard front end. I also don't much care for the interior of the current Vantage. Like a late 1990s JVC stack system. Exterior I’m ok with. I know it’s not to everyone’s taste. Interior I’d need to get up close. The pictures don’t fill me with excitement, but reviewers seem to like the quality. Have to see it in real life. |
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Post by franki68 on Jun 13, 2020 14:09:49 GMT
If an r8 is too wide you can exclude the amg gt and most Ferraris. The Mclaren’s are very tempting but there currently seems no end to their depreciation and running costs are significant ,along with reliability questions and when they do go wrong how long they take to fix . The aston is a good choice ,it would be mine if I wanted a less focussed car than the gt3,a 911 or cayman/boxster gts are great as well. That’s where my mind is at. The huge caveat being that I’ve not driven the vantage in latest guise and didn’t rate the previous version. What vantage did you try ? The v8s were not great until the last couple of years production ,the v12s were epic .If I wanted manual I would seriously look at the v12s vantages although I’m not sure about what they currently sell for,it’s a fantastic car ,they will also be highly collectible in the future .The new ones I haven’t tried but the reviews suggest it’s a great car. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 16:05:20 GMT
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Post by Stuntman on Jun 13, 2020 16:46:33 GMT
For that price, it needs to have about 2kg of gold in the boot!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 17:28:40 GMT
There HAS to be a typo in there.
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Post by garry on Jun 15, 2020 9:52:09 GMT
Birthday weekend meant I didn’t do much apart from eat lots and get too drunk, so not progressed this yet. Busy week at work too so not likely to get much further in the next few days. However, I’m struggling to see beyond two brands; Porsche and Aston Martin. Within those two my mind is on the following options:
992. Probably the ‘sensible’ option out of this group. Speccing it would mean I could have it in aventurine green (trivial, bit I love this colour).
Boxster gts. Likely to be the best Sunday morning blast out of the group. I worry if £70k is sensible money to put into a boxster
991. I.e. my 991, I love this car, but am I going to be happy running an older Porsche?
Vantage. The pull is ‘it’s an Aston Martin’. Controversial, but the more I see the more I love the looks
DB 11 volante. Love it, but Is this just a step too far into the exotic for me? Pushes the budget up a bit!
There are points of practicality (Would I ever dare park an Aston anywhere) and image (will my customers take a look at what they pay us if I roll up in. Db11) that play on my mind a bit. I guess that Porsche is a known quantity for me and it doesn’t attract silly amounts of attention.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 15, 2020 10:08:37 GMT
I think if you don't scratch the Aston itch it'll always be there and no Porsche will get rid of it.
A DB11 Volante would be awesome but don't they start around £120k (for a nice spec). At that budget you can get into a Mclaren 720S!
The only other thing with the Aston is it'll depreciate, a lot.
The Boxster might seem a lot of money at 70K but in three years time It'll probably drop 25K tops whilst the Aston, £40-50K maybe.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 15, 2020 10:42:21 GMT
The pull of an Aston would be hard to resist. There are a couple of guys down the golf club who have new Vanquish - one black, one silver, and as you're wandering back to your Munich Cortina it's hard not to just stop and gaze at them - never gets boring.
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Post by Tim on Jun 15, 2020 12:38:45 GMT
My biggest concern with the Aston would be how much of the performance you could use regularly. Isn't there a danger they're just to ofast?
That applies to most of the others too.
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Post by Andy C on Jun 15, 2020 12:44:57 GMT
I think the db11 interior is really poor and it’s not what you’d call a beautiful Aston
If you’re going down the Aston route I’d go vantage all day long
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Post by garry on Jun 15, 2020 13:00:30 GMT
My biggest concern with the Aston would be how much of the performance you could use regularly. Isn't there a danger they're just to ofast? That applies to most of the others too. There is some truth in this. A base 911 is not too fast for the road in that you can redline it often enough and not be too far from being legal. |
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