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Post by PG on May 5, 2020 13:20:33 GMT
Just the 97% down on a year before. And the Tesla 3 was the best seller, followed by the I-Pace. I guess that how things develop over the next few months will be key - can any of those lost sales be caught up in the rest of the year? There ought to some amazing new car deals around in a couple of months, for those with the cash, or the cojones. However, I seem to remember back in 2008/9 that the industry pretty quickly adjusted its production so that it was only on the backlog of built cars that deals could be struck. We bought the Shogun in 2009 and got a great deal as it was built and in the country. A factory order was a different matter for pricing. April statistics -   |
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Post by PetrolEd on May 5, 2020 14:07:20 GMT
Very interesting, just one thing, what the hell is a Peugeot Rifter?
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Post by michael on May 5, 2020 14:09:42 GMT
Very interesting, just one thing, what the hell is a Peugeot Rifter? A Citroen Berlingo I think.
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Post by Tim on May 5, 2020 14:13:07 GMT
YTD 7,900 BMW 3 series of which 7,889 are pre-reg sitting in the dealer stock compounds and on their websites at a 28% discount.
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Post by racingteatray on May 5, 2020 14:17:40 GMT
I ordered my 135i coupe in late 2008 for a 1 March 2009 delivery and got both a very healthy discount and the benefit of 15% VAT. I bought it from Sytner Canary Wharf who were clearly delighted to see a customer step into in their otherwise deserted showroom.
The saleswoman's hopeful high-wattage smile did dim somewhat when the answer to "which range is Sir interested in?" was "the 1-series". But she managed to regain her enthusiasm when it became clear that I at least wanted a top of the range 1-series accompanied by a healthy raid on the options list.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 15:12:16 GMT
Very interesting, just one thing, what the hell is a Peugeot Rifter? My first thought, too! |
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Post by Roadrunner on May 5, 2020 15:57:54 GMT
Other than the Tesla and Jaguar the April list is deeply depressing.
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Post by ChrisM on May 5, 2020 20:09:08 GMT
Other than the Tesla and Jaguar the April list is deeply depressing. Why?? Who is going to buy a new car now, with lockdown in progress so you can't drive anywhere except the shops, and many have either lost their jobs or don't know how much longer their job is going to last? Same as the airline industry, many countries have banned internationally arriving passengers so no great surprise to me that BA, Virgin Atlantic, MOL's lot and many others are proposing to slash staff numbers and that the future of some airports is in doubt. Things are being said like this is the biggest recession in our lifetime etc - I suspect that it will be the biggest depression etc in history to date. We are far more dependent on international trade and travel than ever before; you can't just put the shutters up on a country for a few weeks and expect to re-open them with very little impact. The effect of even 3 weeks of near-total lockdown would have been disastrous, but effectively 7 weeks and counting ........ the worst disaster in the history of mankind (IMHO) |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 20:35:44 GMT
I think he means the TYPE of car up there for sales stats rather than the number.
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Post by ChrisM on May 5, 2020 20:37:21 GMT
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It's all the people afraid of picking up the virus from petrol pumps/diesel pumps. They can plug in to recharge at home and avoid touching things that others may have touched.
Remember the days of attended service at "filling stations" ? I do........
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Post by Roadrunner on May 5, 2020 20:47:10 GMT
I think he means the TYPE of car up there for sales stats rather than the number. Exactly. Any list with the Corsa, Crossland, Rifter, 308 etc. on it is a list of white goods. |
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Post by racingteatray on May 5, 2020 20:56:43 GMT
At this rate, it'll be months before I need to touch a petrol pump. We brimmed both cars a few weeks ago when prices were slashed from £1.34 to £1.10 at our local Esso (using the disposable plastic gloves from the dispenser by the pump) and I doubt either car has travelled much more than about 10 miles in total since.
Now is surely only a good time to buy a car for someone who hasn't also got one they need to get rid of. Because bargains on new cars mean being offered tuppence for your existing car. On the BMW owners forum there is no shortage of people horrified to find they are being offered multiple thousands less by the likes of We BuySteal Any Car than they'd been offered weeks previously.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 22:07:21 GMT
With my low mileage my last fuel payout was in the region of £12. How the highlife is lived?
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Post by michael on May 5, 2020 22:09:21 GMT
My last tank lasted 6 weeks compared to the usual one. I’m making a point of spending the saving on stuff I otherwise wouldn’t in order to benefit from it.
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Post by Roadsterstu on May 6, 2020 6:28:26 GMT
Corsa in at 3??
I read yesterday that the registrations in April were largely fleet orders made prior to lockdown being completed, so that could account for why Vauxhall have appeared so high up. I have also come across a few A Class on Motability recently, so maybe that's another reason its up there?
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Post by ChrisM on May 6, 2020 7:13:36 GMT
Maybe all the I-Pace registrations were to that health authority that was in the news a few weeks ago??
The Corsas are probably demonstrators of the new model being registered to dealers.
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Post by racingteatray on May 6, 2020 7:58:24 GMT
My last tank lasted 6 weeks compared to the usual one. I’m making a point of spending the saving on stuff I otherwise wouldn’t in order to benefit from it. Standing monthly bills apart, I'm not finding that I'm spending money anywhere other than online grocery shopping at the supermarkets at the moment. It's not deliberate - I just haven't felt the need. I stopped into our local upscale deli last Saturday after we had a sudden craving for decent baguette and croissant, and had to fish out my debit card to pay. Felt almost novel - couldn't immediately remember the last time I'd used it. Probably when I filled the car up with petrol about a month ago. |
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Post by Martin on May 6, 2020 8:20:36 GMT
No surprise that my fuel usage has gone down hugely as well recently, £200 total in the last 2 months, normal would be £1000-£1200 over the same period. However, the majority would normally be covered by expenses, so I've saved around £150 in the last month plus running costs associated with the reduced mileage. Not saving much outside of that. Supermarket bills have gone up, we've partially replaced eating out with a takeaway each week, baby related expenses are up (he's growing fast) and I've bought a couple of 'treats' (iPad Pro & Pencil, £330 electric shaver...lovely thing etc). All spending done without the need to venture out, I've only had to make one supermarket visit in the last 5 weeks. Got the boys for 6 days starting tomorrow, so I'll get to drive properly again, 400 miles in the next week  It will be interesting to see what happens with the new/used car market over the coming weeks. |
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Post by LandieMark on May 6, 2020 9:53:22 GMT
Mine has stayed about the same. I am using the 90 to go to the farm everyday, but I'm not doing trips to Darlington for the properties, banking etc.
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Post by racingteatray on May 6, 2020 10:01:42 GMT
We're saving a fortune in eating out - we easily used to eat out at least twice a week with friends and in London that's never a cheap experience. By contrast we almost never got take-aways pre-COVID except for the very occasional pizza from the excellent Neapolitan pizzeria around the corner. And even that we don't do anymore after my wife clocked through the windows that none of them were wearing face masks. And ready meals have never existed in this house - my wife considers them beyond the pale.
So it's been nothing but good healthy home-cooked food for me for nearly two months - little wonder I've lost nearly a stone in weight!
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Post by Martin on May 6, 2020 10:08:15 GMT
I'd rather they weren't wearing face masks! A fabric one not changed every couple of hours is much worse than not having one at all.
We're supporting our local restaurants who are offering a delivery service. To be extra careful, I hold the containers and we decant into our own serving dishes, then I thoroughly wash my hands.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 10:15:26 GMT
I'm guessing the Tesla is up there because you order them online and not from a showroom? Weird how the Corsa is in the top 10 but the Fiesta has disappeared.
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Post by racingteatray on May 6, 2020 15:45:10 GMT
On the BMW owners forum there is no shortage of people horrified to find they are being offered multiple thousands less by the likes of We BuySteal Any Car than they'd been offered weeks previously. Talking of which, I hadn't realised until I read it on the aforementioned forum (and then did a google search to confirm it) that We BuySteal Any Car belongs to BCA (British Car Auctions) and that's how the model works. As a poster pointed out, since BCA aren't holding any auctions it stands to reason that W BSAC is lowballing more than usual and apparently also not making offers (but only telling you that was you've filled in all your details for their database...). |
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Post by ChrisM on May 6, 2020 16:58:49 GMT
My last tank lasted 6 weeks compared to the usual one. I’m making a point of spending the saving on stuff I otherwise wouldn’t in order to benefit from it. I got called into work again today... decided to top the Fiesta up on the way home. It's nearly 3 months since I last put fuel in it with all this lockdown fiasco, and it was only the 3rd time this year that I have put fuel in it. Not quite 400 miles since the last fill in February but the cheapest petrol I have bought for many years at 105.9 per litre (Sainsburys - they have 22 pumps open but only one till in the kiosk which is bigger than many corner shops, yet they were allowing only one person inside at a time to pay, with one till open. Almost took longer to queue and pay than it did to put the fuel in) |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 7, 2020 11:08:01 GMT
^ Do they not have Pay at the Pump? I always use that if I can.
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Post by ChrisM on May 7, 2020 11:22:20 GMT
I avoid pay at the pump, I prefer to deal with a real person
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Post by michael on May 7, 2020 11:27:27 GMT
I avoid pay at the pump, I prefer to deal with a real person You've paid for your preference with your time then. |
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Post by garry on May 7, 2020 12:27:10 GMT
I'm guessing the Tesla is up there because you order them online and not from a showroom? Weird how the Corsa is in the top 10 but the Fiesta has disappeared. That's what i was thinking. The graphic is more about deliveries than orders? Tesla number might well be a typical monthly number for them and could reflect a pre-covid market? |
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Post by garry on May 7, 2020 12:51:55 GMT
Other than the Tesla and Jaguar the April list is deeply depressing. Why?? Who is going to buy a new car now, with lockdown in progress so you can't drive anywhere except the shops, and many have either lost their jobs or don't know how much longer their job is going to last? Same as the airline industry, many countries have banned internationally arriving passengers so no great surprise to me that BA, Virgin Atlantic, MOL's lot and many others are proposing to slash staff numbers and that the future of some airports is in doubt. Things are being said like this is the biggest recession in our lifetime etc - I suspect that it will be the biggest depression etc in history to date. We are far more dependent on international trade and travel than ever before; you can't just put the shutters up on a country for a few weeks and expect to re-open them with very little impact. The effect of even 3 weeks of near-total lockdown would have been disastrous, but effectively 7 weeks and counting ........ the worst disaster in the history of mankind (IMHO)I disagree. It's clearly going to be painful, but I'm optimistic we can recover reasonably quickly. Depressions typically have structural and fundamental root cause(s). For example, the 1930's depression was driven by a bubble and structural problems in the banking sector. Once in the depression, those structural issues need fixing before you can climb out. Covid presents a shock to our economic systems, not because of our economic systems. Hitting a structurally sound economy with a shock is very different from an economy crashing because its structurally unsound. |
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Post by johnc on May 7, 2020 13:01:40 GMT
I think the recovery from this crisis is dependent on two things: getting out of lockdown and the attitude of people. If either of those is lacking then the hole will just open up under us.
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