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Post by michael on Mar 3, 2020 19:00:16 GMT
This is rather nice:  |
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Post by johnc on Mar 3, 2020 19:05:13 GMT
I like that a lot. A very nice upgrade.
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Post by racingteatray on Mar 3, 2020 20:51:39 GMT
Indeed - a very careful update. I only don't like at all the badge on the front. Makes it look like an Audi. I would much prefer a proper Fiat badge.
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Post by PetrolEd on Mar 3, 2020 21:08:39 GMT
Indeed - a very careful update. I only don't like at all the badge on the front. Makes it look like an Audi. I would much prefer a proper Fiat badge. Agree with all of that |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 22:38:28 GMT
Likewise.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 3, 2020 22:38:30 GMT
Indeed - a very careful update. I only don't like at all the badge on the front. Makes it look like an Audi. I would much prefer a proper Fiat badge. I think the value of the 500 brand well exceeds that of FIAT now so it makes sense to use it on an aspirational product. |
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Post by Blarno on Mar 4, 2020 7:38:12 GMT
Aspirational
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Post by Martin on Mar 4, 2020 7:50:11 GMT
I really like that. The proportions and stance look much better than the current model (be interested so see other angles), which looks too tall and narrow, like the body wasn’t designed for that platform and adjusted to fit.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 4, 2020 8:30:55 GMT
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Post by Tim on Mar 4, 2020 9:38:17 GMT
That's a nice update.
I particularly like the Lancia Delta HF Turbo alloys
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Post by Andy C on Mar 4, 2020 10:21:33 GMT
Really like that
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Post by PG on Mar 4, 2020 10:56:37 GMT
That looks really good. I'm amazed the headlights split in half by the bonnet line are a production feature - they must make the bonnet and headlights way more expensive to produce.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 11:00:44 GMT
I'm doubting you'll see many in that colour - remains to be seen what it looks like in white, baby blue etc.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 4, 2020 11:06:14 GMT
That looks really good. I'm amazed the headlights split in half by the bonnet line are a production feature - they must make the bonnet and headlights way more expensive to produce. It looks as if the headlights are in the bumper panel and the bonnet has a light feature (sidelights, indicators?) incorporated. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 11:15:26 GMT
I'm not feeling the love. It looks like they just sanded the corners off and added a grille from an Audi.
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Post by michael on Mar 4, 2020 11:15:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 11:19:59 GMT
They're doing an estate?!
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Post by michael on Mar 4, 2020 11:25:13 GMT
They did something similar with the original 500. There was a concept of the original Ford KA with an estate body. I think they missed a trick developing that brand as they could have shared the success of the 500 - ironic really given the second KA and 500 shared a platform.
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Post by Blarno on Mar 4, 2020 11:29:48 GMT
I'm not feeling the love. It looks like they just sanded the corners off and added a grille from an Audi.
Yup, still seeing a cutesy retro handbag on wheels.
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Post by michael on Mar 4, 2020 11:40:13 GMT
Yup, still seeing a cutesy retro handbag on wheels.
Or a successfully resolved aspirational product that the market wants in other words! |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 4, 2020 11:56:47 GMT
I hadn't seen those photos, it looks great. I'm a big fan of the 500 (we've had 3) and I wondered how they would update it but it looks successful. I like the idea of re-inventing it as a high quality electric city car. |
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Post by michael on Mar 4, 2020 12:17:38 GMT
I agree, it's the very difficult second album situation but they've done it. Obviously a 500 but obviously a new one.
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Post by Tim on Mar 4, 2020 12:25:53 GMT
I agree, it's the very difficult second album situation but they've done it. Obviously a 500 but obviously a new one. It's worked successfully for Porsche for 60 years so why not further down the market? |
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Post by Blarno on Mar 4, 2020 12:30:35 GMT
Yup, still seeing a cutesy retro handbag on wheels.
Or a successfully resolved aspirational product that the market wants in other words! Straight from the PR book of bullshit!  |
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Post by michael on Mar 4, 2020 12:35:48 GMT
That bullshit is about selling cars, that's what they're in business to do. Yes they could have done some radical, high-art massive departure design but the truth is Fiat is up against the wall and people's jobs are at stake. This product looks to me like offering them a fighting chance of staying in business.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 4, 2020 12:58:14 GMT
Or a successfully resolved aspirational product that the market wants in other words! Straight from the PR book of bullshit!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 13:37:57 GMT
That last one is nauseating...
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Post by Blarno on Mar 4, 2020 13:38:19 GMT
Hey, I just work there, I don't write that shit. Keep it simple, I say:
Volvo: They're boxy but they're good.
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Post by michael on Mar 4, 2020 13:40:00 GMT
Is the Mono actually different because it looks exactly the same? They're making Porsche look radical!
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Post by PG on Mar 4, 2020 13:46:38 GMT
That looks really good. I'm amazed the headlights split in half by the bonnet line are a production feature - they must make the bonnet and headlights way more expensive to produce. It looks as if the headlights are in the bumper panel and the bonnet has a light feature (sidelights, indicators?) incorporated. Yes, I think you are right. In the Autocar photos it looks like a DRL has been set into the bonnet to continue the line of the headlight. Clever piece of styling. |
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