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Apr 20, 2020 12:51:39 GMT
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Post by Alex on Apr 20, 2020 12:51:39 GMT
They cant stop him saying these things because he is the president and tbh I wonder if they realise he has gone so far past the point of credibility on the international stage that they may as well let him get on with it. At least it'll make sure the next person to take office will have to really go some to be considered even slightly nutty.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:06:10 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Apr 20, 2020 16:06:10 GMT
He's a businessman, not a politician Not very good at either.
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Apr 27, 2020 10:41:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 10:41:39 GMT
Are the Americans not embarrassed to have a leader who thinks sunburn and injecting yourself with household cleaning products constitutes healthcare?
Friday's HIGNFY featured some video footage of the sort of Americans whom the rest of the world views with a mix of contempt and utter contempt, so maybe not...
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Apr 28, 2020 7:29:28 GMT
Post by Roadrunner on Apr 28, 2020 7:29:28 GMT
I had an email from one of my American cousins last night. He said that there has been a doubling of the number of people admitted to hospital for swallowing bleach...
He is the accountant for a country club and golf course and they have had to remove the furniture form the various clubhouse bars and lounges to stop people from gathering there. The response from some was, "where shall play cards?" Some counties have closed the beaches down the west coast (he lives in California) so everyone from those areas has flocked to the beaches which remain open.
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Apr 28, 2020 8:25:40 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 8:25:40 GMT
Re the bleach - it's alright, he was being sarcastic.
And no, he can't imagine why it would be anything to do with him.
He's a fucking bad joke.
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May 1, 2020 6:52:54 GMT
Post by johnc on May 1, 2020 6:52:54 GMT
He must be really concerned about losing the next election: stating that he has seen evidence that the virus came from a lab in Wuhan and it's all the fault of the Chinese when the CIA are stating that there is no evidence it came from a lab although it did start in China. However the Chinese are just as bad coming up with stories that the CIA planted the virus in Wuhan and that the virus may have come from elsewhere. It's like tit for tat by two immature teenagers.
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May 1, 2020 7:43:20 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 1, 2020 7:43:20 GMT
He must be really concerned about losing the next election: stating that he has seen evidence that the virus came from a lab in Wuhan and it's all the fault of the Chinese when the CIA are stating that there is no evidence it came from a lab although it did start in China. However the Chinese are just as bad coming up with stories that the CIA planted the virus in Wuhan and that the virus may have come from elsewhere. It's like tit for tat by two immature teenagers. On the other hand..
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May 1, 2020 7:49:20 GMT
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May 1, 2020 8:29:15 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 8:29:15 GMT
It's also feels like a bollox argument. Flu pandemics are not so restrained, so there's no reason why COVID19 would be.
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May 1, 2020 9:48:27 GMT
Post by Big Blue on May 1, 2020 9:48:27 GMT
No real love lost between Japanese and Chinese, so large pinches of salt to be taken.
Surely a virus in humans requires human body temperature (37.1C) not the outside temperature to propagate between humans. Viruses aren't checking on to aeroplanes on their own then arriving in a new country and saying: "it's a bit parky here, I think I'll just die" are they?
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May 1, 2020 10:54:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 10:54:17 GMT
Exactly.
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May 1, 2020 11:40:02 GMT
Post by johnc on May 1, 2020 11:40:02 GMT
But most known viruses, like flu, thrive in colder conditions and become weak in warm and hot conditions. In hot countries the spread is very much reduced because the virus dies much more quickly once out of the body: it can still be spread but it needs much longer and closer person to person contact.
I don't know what the truth is but without doubt, someone is telling lies.
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May 1, 2020 12:27:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 12:27:49 GMT
Given the interpersonal nature of COVID19's communication, I would be very surprised if temperature made much of a difference at all. Once the droplets containing it have been inhaled or the virus passed from hand to hand, ambient temperature isn't likely to be much of a factor.
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May 1, 2020 12:34:13 GMT
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Post by michael on May 1, 2020 12:34:13 GMT
The idea the virus dies out in summer of warmer conditions is a bit misunderstood. It’s due to a reduction in the transmission (R) value as people increasingly spend time outside rather than indoors in greater density.
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May 1, 2020 12:41:58 GMT
Post by PG on May 1, 2020 12:41:58 GMT
..I don't know what the truth is but without doubt, someone is telling lies.... This is the only certainty in all this.
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May 2, 2020 20:36:37 GMT
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May 2, 2020 21:30:54 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 21:30:54 GMT
The thing is, which news is real?
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May 2, 2020 22:12:26 GMT
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 2, 2020 22:12:26 GMT
The thing is, which news is real? I'm not sure anyone knows anymore.
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May 3, 2020 7:12:31 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 7:12:31 GMT
Everything about the tone of that piece suggests propaganda. Genuine news doesn't offer judgements - that is littered with them.
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May 3, 2020 9:09:45 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 9:09:45 GMT
Well, we could try Wikitribune but it seems to be a blank page...
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May 3, 2020 9:41:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 9:41:53 GMT
Sadly even the beeb give opinion and call it news. Pointless pap invho.
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May 3, 2020 9:47:09 GMT
Post by racingteatray on May 3, 2020 9:47:09 GMT
I think there is a difference between fake news and news that is called fake because it isn't what the listener wants to hear.
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May 3, 2020 11:51:40 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 3, 2020 11:51:40 GMT
Everything about the tone of that piece suggests propaganda. Genuine news doesn't offer judgements - that is littered with them. That rules out The Guardian then!
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May 3, 2020 11:55:28 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 3, 2020 11:55:28 GMT
I think there is a difference between fake news and news that is called fake because it isn't what the listener wants to hear. I agree, and the website doesn’t instil confidence. That said there’s nothing in that article that hasn’t been reported elsewhere and do readers who dismiss it do so because it’s not what they want to hear or believe? After all I’m not seeing any rebuttal of the points raised.
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May 3, 2020 12:14:28 GMT
Post by racingteatray on May 3, 2020 12:14:28 GMT
Everything about the tone of that piece suggests propaganda. Genuine news doesn't offer judgements - that is littered with them. That rules out The Guardian then! Well I think it rules all the newspapers out. Find me one truly impartial newspaper! However, the better newspapers separate news articles from opinion pieces slightly more clearly, allowing the discerning reader more opportunity distinguish plain facts from editorial overlay or journalistic view. The FT is not nakedly political but it still very much takes the side of business and is definitely guilty on occasion of having axes to grind and reporting what the relevant journalist wants to report about a given company or transaction, not what actually happened (I know this for a fact, as it has happened in respect of high profile deals I have worked on, where the FT has reported the exact opposite of what I know to have happened). The one that always irritates me most these days is the Daily Telegraph - it really has sunk in quality - it doesn't currently even attempt much beyond Tory HQ PR and a very narrow inward-looking narrative. At least the Times and the Daily Wail will attack the government if they think it cocked up, and the Guardian doesn't shy away from criticising Labour or including thought pieces from different perspectives.
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May 3, 2020 13:04:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 13:04:55 GMT
I think there is a difference between fake news and news that is called fake because it isn't what the listener wants to hear. I agree, and the website doesn’t instil confidence. That said there’s nothing in that article that hasn’t been reported elsewhere and do readers who dismiss it do so because it’s not what they want to hear or believe? After all I’m not seeing any rebuttal of the points raised. I wasn't going to waste my time reading it, beyond having established it was shamelessly pro-Trump. Even the use of the word alt- sets my teeth on edge. As Potarse has made whatever media he can influence a source of fakery, propaganda and outright lies, I'd rather steer clear and stick to proper news sources even if they have their slant on things.
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May 3, 2020 13:08:38 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 3, 2020 13:08:38 GMT
I agree, and the website doesn’t instil confidence. That said there’s nothing in that article that hasn’t been reported elsewhere and do readers who dismiss it do so because it’s not what they want to hear or believe? After all I’m not seeing any rebuttal of the points raised. I wasn't going to waste my time reading it, beyond having established it was shamelessly pro-Trump. Even the use of the word alt- sets my teeth on edge. As Potarse has made whatever media he can influence a source of fakery, propaganda and outright lies, I'd rather steer clear and stick to proper news sources even if they have their slant on things. Much as I hate Trump even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Eg. He’s right on NATO countries not pulling their weight financially and militarily, leaving far too much of the heavy lifting to the US.
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May 3, 2020 13:36:19 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 13:36:19 GMT
The article is about the WHO, isn't it? Choosing the highly intellectual approach of analogising it with boxing match between the WHO (name preceded by disparagement) and the writer's scarcely-contained reproductive juices over POTarSe.
Yes, Trump cannot be wrong about everything, but I find his endorsement to an fact* deeply unsettling. If he were to say the sky was blue, I'd be looking into it carefully before repeating it!
*Probably not too big a worry, as he and fact are barely on nodding terms most of the time.
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May 3, 2020 13:45:52 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 3, 2020 13:45:52 GMT
The article is about the WHO, isn't it? Well, you need to read it. It puts the WHO on context with his views on the UN and NATO.
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May 3, 2020 16:20:28 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 16:20:28 GMT
I think his views on the whole box of smarties is pretty obvious but many people see these organisations as not only toothless but ineffective. I have to say I agree with most of those views tbh. Not as extreme but really, they are methods of wasting money and not much else.
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