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Post by michael on Jan 9, 2020 14:45:55 GMT
This isn't about individual models, but as an entire range who is making the best looking cars?
From a 25 mile trip along the A1 today I'd say Mazda or Alfa Romeo are in contention.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 9, 2020 19:42:45 GMT
I find the current Mazda 3 very awkward-looking so that doesn't help Mazda in my estimation.
I'd say Ferrari - the current batch are all fairly handsome. Land Rover too, if it wasn't for the dropped ball with the Discovery.
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Post by Stuntman on Jan 9, 2020 19:44:31 GMT
Porsche? Even the latest SUVs look quite good, to my eyes. Admittedly the cars can be a bit spec or colour-sensitive, but I think the basic shapes are pretty decent.
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Post by johnc on Jan 9, 2020 19:59:45 GMT
I don't disagree with either Ferrari or Porsche but I think that Mercedes are doing pretty well just now.
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Post by Martin on Jan 9, 2020 20:09:57 GMT
I’m struggling. Agree with Porsche as long as the spec is right and Ferrari are up there, but then it gets difficult. Mercedes are a lot better than Audi or BMW at the moment, but the droopy CLS and A Class hold it back.
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Post by chipbutty on Jan 9, 2020 20:34:25 GMT
No one marque can score a full house, but the nominees are:
Land Rover (Disco 5 excepted) Mercedes (sub c class and a few dodgy SUVs excepted) Porsche (cayenne coupe excepted)
I would add to this discussion, who has a generally unattractive range that has a lone beauty ?
I vote Lexus, mainly unpleasant but the LC500 is absolutely gorgeous.
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 9, 2020 22:18:05 GMT
Volvo ? Porsche ?
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Post by Tim on Jan 10, 2020 9:31:22 GMT
This isn't about Agas then? I think the Porsches now look heavy with the exception of the Boxster/Cayman. Take the time to view a Panamera and it you can almost see that it weighs over 2 tonnes. Alfa are doing ok with their 2 car range (Giulia and Stelvio in case you can't remember but I don't think anyone else is consistently good. I like the new Mazda 3 but am ambivalent to the rest of the range.
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Post by racingteatray on Jan 10, 2020 10:25:43 GMT
I would add to this discussion, who has a generally unattractive range that has a lone beauty ? I vote Lexus, mainly unpleasant but the LC500 is absolutely gorgeous. Agree entirely.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 10, 2020 11:59:49 GMT
I can't agree on Mercedes - for the last 15 years their entire design department seem to have been imagining what Korean copies of Mercedes would look like and then copying them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 12:23:29 GMT
I can't agree on Mercedes - for the last 15 years their entire design department seem to have been imagining what Korean copies of Mercedes would look like and then copying them. Have to agree with this. Alfa is probably the best, but we're not living in a classical age at the moment.
I like the basic McLaren shape and have a soft spot for the Senna, but the Speedtail is unlovely.
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Post by Tim on Jan 10, 2020 12:33:16 GMT
I haven't seen many McLarens in the flesh but those I have I really can' tell apart. It'd be different if it was a Speedtail or Senna but they are clearly mythical creatures round these parts.
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Post by PG on Jan 10, 2020 12:38:37 GMT
It's seems almost impossible for anybody to have a good range, as the desire to stamp the "corporate look" on everything will never really work. For what might work on the flagship of the range may look stupid on a smaller car or vice versa. This seems to be the trap that BMW, Audi and Merc have all fallen into. So the ranges that are most successful are probably those that don't slavishly follow a corporate look.
I think Land Rover are coming close, with the notable exception of the Disco 5 - the styling of which as a blown up Disco Sport with a wonky back end has always never quite worked. But their range in general works as each Land Rover product looks just different enough to the others to have its own identity. Yes, at a distance you can confuse a Disco Sport with a Disco, or RRS with a Velar, but you can't confuse a full fat RR with anything else and you won't be able to confuse the new Defender with anything else either.
And coming in from left field I'm going to nominate Peugeot as getting there. They came from a dark place - the guppy mouth period. But now they are starting to look a whole lot better.
And yes, I do like the Jag range, but the XE and XF are too similar and the E-Pace looks a bit dumpy. I also preferred the sports cars when they had the oval grilles - the XK period. That clearly differentiated them from the saloons.
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Post by scouse on Jan 10, 2020 13:31:02 GMT
I find the current Mazda 3 very awkward-looking so that doesn't help Mazda in my estimation. I'd say Ferrari - the current batch are all fairly handsome. Land Rover too, if it wasn't for the dropped ball with the Discovery. Agree with Ferrari (even though I'm not much taken with the mid-enghined ones) and Land Rover (Disco 5 excepted) Not a big fan of the current 911 or their 4x4's. Volvo.
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 10, 2020 13:31:47 GMT
I am not alone, then......
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Post by PetrolEd on Jan 10, 2020 14:44:17 GMT
Volvo is probably the best shout so far.
Alpine - easy when you only have one car but if you add Renault, you have new Clio, Megane, Scenic, Espace all are lookers, the only one I don't like the look of is the Captur
Notable mention to Peugeot for their vast improvement on the crap they were designing 5/10 years ago.
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Post by Martin on Jan 10, 2020 14:51:11 GMT
The rear of the S90 rules Volvo out for me and I don’t really like the XC40 either. The others in the range do look pretty good compared to their competitors.
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Post by michael on Jan 10, 2020 20:01:00 GMT
The rear of the S90 rules Volvo out for me and I don’t really like the XC40 either. The others in the range do look pretty good compared to their competitors. I noticed the local funeral home has an S90 based hearse. Those rear lights work better on that than they do the regular car.
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Post by ChrisM on Jan 10, 2020 21:42:19 GMT
I noticed the local funeral home has an S90 based hearse. Those rear lights work better on that than they do the regular car. Are you being dead serious ?? A hearse based on an S90 rather than a V90 ??
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Post by michael on Jan 10, 2020 22:03:54 GMT
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Post by Ben on Jan 11, 2020 4:43:09 GMT
I'll probably go with Alfa (all of two models) or Volvo. I don't quite like the Mazda 3 Hatchback's looks
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Post by johnc on Jan 11, 2020 7:55:09 GMT
Is that a version for especially large coffins and fat people. Or maybe they stand them up the ways to get more in.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 11, 2020 8:50:08 GMT
Morgan, obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 9:48:12 GMT
Aston possibly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 10:09:09 GMT
Bugatti gets my vote!
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Post by Sav on Jan 11, 2020 10:36:38 GMT
Not Land Rover, Gerry McGovern did the Discovery - Steve Cropley's favourite bloke. No wonder sales are sluggish, it just looks awful.
Land Rovers have the habit of looking worse as they get older. The current RR Sport looked fine when it launched, in 2020 it now looks chintzier and a mess. Same thing with the last RR Sport, it started out okay...
Ferrari. The Roma looks amazing, the F8 looks amazing (saw one in London last week), the 812 looks amazing. Big love.
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Post by michael on Jan 11, 2020 11:40:31 GMT
Is that a version for especially large coffins and fat people. Or maybe they stand them up the ways to get more in. The other local funeral home uses Australian Ford Falcon conversations. I assume this is a product of the demise of the saloon car. Can’t be long before the SUV hearse.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 11, 2020 12:33:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 13:36:31 GMT
They don't make the Cygnet any more then?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 14:26:38 GMT
The problem with Aston aesthetically is that they aren't at all bad-looking, but they are worse than previous generations. I suppose the final part of that sentence could apply to just about everything, though.
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