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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 10:57:09 GMT
If I worked in an office, I'd be joining you on the Scrooge bench on that one!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 13, 2019 11:09:33 GMT
I agree it needs taking seriously, absolutely. At the moment we are kind of farting about with little things and ignoring the bigger challenges. Well we do have the largest installed offshore wind capacity in the World and will soon generate 30% of our electricity from renewables. The next round of wind farm licenses will increase that further. Our coal plants are closed/idle or being converted to biomass. Combined cycle gas plants pick up the slack and produce half the emissions of coal and oil power plants. Many days during the warmer months our entire electricity supply comes from renewables. Our vehicle fleet, through taxation and scrapping is cleaner than ever. It's not the hopeless case the doomsayers would have you believe and isn't so far gone we can't make the future a better, cleaner place. |
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Post by Tim on Dec 13, 2019 11:10:56 GMT
I wore a jersey yesterday and told them it was one that I would happily wear at Christmas, ergo a Christmas jersey! TBH they can all fuck off with their stupidity. To paraphrase ChrisM I think I need another job  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 12:04:49 GMT
I agree it needs taking seriously, absolutely. At the moment we are kind of farting about with little things and ignoring the bigger challenges. Well we do have the largest installed offshore wind capacity in the World and will soon generate 30% of our electricity from renewables. The next round of wind farm licenses will increase that further. Our coal plants are closed/idle or being converted to biomass. Combined cycle gas plants pick up the slack and produce half the emissions of coal and oil power plants. Many days during the warmer months our entire electricity supply comes from renewables. Our vehicle fleet, through taxation and scrapping is cleaner than ever. It's not the hopeless case the doomsayers would have you believe and isn't so far gone we can't make the future a better, cleaner place. Just so I am clear, I'm not one of those - I just get a little frustrated on the issue at times, as I suspect we all do. Those who don't want to believe that the climate is changing will always find voices of agreement on the peripheries, and there are some glaring examples of unfairness in the overall tax regime if you are looking to steer behaviour. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 27, 2019 11:05:49 GMT
I agree it needs taking seriously, absolutely. At the moment we are kind of farting about with little things and ignoring the bigger challenges. Well we do have the largest installed offshore wind capacity in the World and will soon generate 30% of our electricity from renewables. The next round of wind farm licenses will increase that further. Our coal plants are closed/idle or being converted to biomass. Combined cycle gas plants pick up the slack and produce half the emissions of coal and oil power plants. Many days during the warmer months our entire electricity supply comes from renewables. Our vehicle fleet, through taxation and scrapping is cleaner than ever. It's not the hopeless case the doomsayers would have you believe and isn't so far gone we can't make the future a better, cleaner place. It's a real shame that we don't hear more about the positive side. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 12:34:01 GMT
The big problem is that few other nations are doing the same.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 27, 2019 22:12:10 GMT
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 28, 2019 11:12:07 GMT
USA in 2nd place? Not for long, now Trump has declared how much he kbows about "windmills" and how bad they are.
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Post by Tim on Jan 6, 2020 15:11:16 GMT
Watching the news recently has made me question how much I care if I drive something like the M5.
The huge fires in Australia are surely contributing a hell of a lot more pollution than a huge number of larger engined cars and I expect, as a follow up to Mr Trump's recently sanctioned airstrike, to shortly see many images of burning oilwells in a sandy setting.
If you add that to the general high levels of pollution created outwith our shores then any small changes we make are going to contribute next to nothing.
It won't stop us getting taxed for it of course....
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Post by michael on Jan 6, 2020 15:29:00 GMT
The Australian fires are at least man made in so much as 200 people are being questioned in relation to arson.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jan 6, 2020 15:48:05 GMT
I think we might have discussed this but our friends in Australia are saying is that one of the issues that has exacerbated the issue in relation to property damage is that, before they used to control burn firebreaks around towns and settlements in the winter, and keep all grass short so that sparks didn't catch. The Green Party campaigned to stop the controlled burns as it destroyed habitat and councils started letting non-developed land become overgrown. Now the fires just sweep through towns as if they weren't there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 16:09:57 GMT
Another example of idiots running the place and a lack of joined up thinking. Could those who prevented controlled burns etc be sued for culpability?
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Post by michael on Jan 6, 2020 16:12:06 GMT
I'm hearing the same from my Australian friends and family. The green lobby prevented clearing of logs, grass and other fuel which has historically gone on. Doesn't get much news coverage here as it doesn't fit the climate change agenda.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 16:17:49 GMT
No doubt they will cover this up as the massive fires hardly meet their agenda either.
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Post by michael on Jan 6, 2020 16:20:00 GMT
No doubt they will cover this up as the massive fires hardly meet their agenda either. I'd say the images of catastrophe play very well for the eco lobby. I'd put money on green activists being responsible for some of them. |
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Post by PG on Jan 6, 2020 17:32:39 GMT
I'm hearing the same from my Australian friends and family. The green lobby prevented clearing of logs, grass and other fuel which has historically gone on. Doesn't get much news coverage here as it doesn't fit the climate change agenda. I've read much the same too. Eco9-virtue signalling beats age ld common sense and good practice every time. Much the same as all the flooding in some areas of the UK being absolutely not made at all worse by the the fact that the EA stopped dredging channels and waterways a number of years ago. Not at all. |
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Post by Tim on Jan 9, 2020 14:56:27 GMT
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Post by michael on Jan 9, 2020 15:17:35 GMT
Getting the defence in early.
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