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Post by bryan on Sept 25, 2019 20:46:13 GMT
Big Blue for Foreign Office?
I seem to deal with endless bureaucracy at work, so do I get DW&P?
Ian gets NHS?
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Post by Martin on Sept 25, 2019 20:51:37 GMT
This is coming together nicely.
We’ll never fit in!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 20:55:04 GMT
I do hope I get a comfortable fence, they can so get in one's crack otherwise.
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Post by Tim on Sept 26, 2019 8:32:17 GMT
I do hope I get a comfortable fence, they can so get in one's crack otherwise. I'll make sure the houses our Government builds has a padded top just for you
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 26, 2019 8:45:11 GMT
Home Sec, if poss, please? That or another plum justice job. Sort out policing, courts sentencing and prisons. Time for some proper justice.
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Post by scouse on Sept 26, 2019 9:24:17 GMT
Home Sec, if poss, please? That or another plum justice job. Sort out policing, courts sentencing and prisons. Time for some proper justice. Says Stu, opening the cabinet to the medieval weapons....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 9:54:21 GMT
I might just 'forget' about some medieval weapons being issued from the armoury or lose the paperwork..... 1033 or 1157?
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 26, 2019 11:53:25 GMT
Home Sec, if poss, please? That or another plum justice job. Sort out policing, courts sentencing and prisons. Time for some proper justice. Says Stu, opening the cabinet to the medieval weapons....
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Post by scouse on Sept 26, 2019 12:08:02 GMT
Says Stu, opening the cabinet to the medieval weapons.... 'He got a bit antsy sarge, so I used the mace on him'
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 26, 2019 13:11:17 GMT
OK: I'll take the FO.... if I must. One of my old school friends is in the FO. In his younger years as a "high flier" (as fast-stream Civil Servants are known) he was in some horrible embassy in the Middle East. His morning task was to walk the walls with two staff and count the severed heads they removed from the railing-topped walls. Lovely. Another friend is a former ambassador and even some decade after his departure from the service he is still first port of call when there are dignitary visits to Czech / Slovak / Polish / Slovene republics. He's recently been in Ukraine I noted from his photo posts. On the OP, I notice our votes (hardly indicative of the mass populace) put Blue and Yellow very close. Now in terms of Brexit the Tories do have a problem in that there are a lot of Brexit voters from traditional Labour constituencies, hence the Labour Exec's refusal to come down either side of the fence (they remember how many votes they lost in the last GE to Brexit / UKIP / whatever-the-racist-bastard-party-call-itself-these-days) due to the fact that there are a lot of voters that have swallowed the utter bollocks spouted by key Brexiteers but totally refuse in any circumstances to vote Conservative, because their industries were destroyed by Tories, in the same way all their job opportunities are stolen by foreigners who's first (and often second) language isn't even English. So the Tories won't make many gains in the areas where they are positively disliked and they will lose votes where there are remainers that will never vote Labour. Hung parliament. If we get back to hung parliament again then the case for PR will come back and eventually we'll end up with a cabinet made up of multiple parties based on the PR vote. Thus our parliament will become European by default.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 14:22:22 GMT
The forum was always better with PR, no?!
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Post by johnc on Sept 26, 2019 14:38:58 GMT
The forum was always better with PR, no?! Yes, I miss his involvement and couldn't even tell you what car he is driving these days!
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Post by Martin on Sept 26, 2019 15:02:37 GMT
The forum was always better with PR, no?! Yes, I miss his involvement and couldn't even tell you what car he is driving these days! Something from JLR would be my guess!
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Post by johnc on Sept 26, 2019 18:07:54 GMT
Has the 135i gone?
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Post by michael on Sept 26, 2019 18:26:09 GMT
Yes, I think the staff discount got too tempting.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 26, 2019 21:39:00 GMT
I think he has an Ewok
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Post by Alex on Sept 27, 2019 6:23:55 GMT
This is coming together nicely. We’ll never fit in! Can I be Leader of the house? According to its latest incumbent you get to lounge across the front benches all day!
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Post by Stuntman on Sept 27, 2019 15:48:26 GMT
I should be Education Secretary. Man maths and performance poetry would form the core curriculum.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 27, 2019 16:30:44 GMT
On this showing the Tories should be really worried about the LibDems.
And we are also clearly not a very left wing lot!!
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Post by Stuntman on Sept 27, 2019 17:35:09 GMT
In my view, the Tories should be very worried about the probability that many of their natural supporters, in the real world, leading relatively normal lives, are unlikely to vote for them anytime soon.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Sept 28, 2019 8:18:16 GMT
I think all politicians ought to be extremely worried about how they are all now seen. Perhaps they are beginning to realise, now we are having all this bleating about being "threatened" via Twitter and the like. I have no fucking sympathy.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 28, 2019 21:59:31 GMT
I think all politicians ought to be extremely worried about how they are all now seen. Perhaps they are beginning to realise, now we are having all this bleating about being "threatened" via Twitter and the like. I have no fucking sympathy. Shall I have no sympathy for the police then? I’m sorry but your remark is out of order.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 22:19:03 GMT
Considering how our police have been screwed over the years I think not. Politicians are there to serve their constituents and they are most definitely NOT serving the electorate. They are a bunch of self serving little bastards who have been telling the nhs staff and the police et al they have to suck up the pain and get on with the job.
Perhaps if they themselves did that there would be no problems. No, thought not. Far too self opinionated and important for THAT.
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Post by Stuntman on Sept 29, 2019 9:37:25 GMT
I'm with Racing. Two wrongs don't make a right. If someone is genuinely being threatened, then the police should act in the proper manner, regardless of how undeserving the person being threatened may be. It's also a lot harder to be nasty towards someone after you have seen them behave impeccably, doing something which benefits you. I probably wouldn't have much sympathy either but I'd certainly keep up my own professional standards, as I'm sure Stu would as well
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 29, 2019 18:24:36 GMT
I’m a lawyer. People love to hate lawyers. Usually for no good reason other than that they’ve grown up hearing that all lawyers are blood-sucking leeches and that every penny paid to a lawyer should be begrudged.
Obviously the world contains plenty of bad, corrupt, lazy or greedy lawyers. But equally it contains plenty of lawyers who are none of the above things and who are worthy contributing members of society.
The same goes for the police, politicians and pretty much all other people.
So let’s not tar all politicians with the same brush, just because a highly partisan media is trying to paint them as public enemy No.1 and being egged on by Government.
And if you object to politicians not delivering Brexit, remember that it was politicians that made Brexit an option in the first place.
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Post by PetrolEd on Sept 30, 2019 8:28:33 GMT
Don't tell me the legal trade isn't loving every minute and bathing in knowledge they are keeping the peasants away from self harming.
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Post by Tim on Sept 30, 2019 11:27:11 GMT
Don't tell me the legal trade isn't loving every minute and bathing in knowledge they are keeping the peasants away from self harming. I think the real winners at the moment are the management consultants, seemingly provided (sadly) by large accountancy firms. Those arseholes are making me angry in a professional capacity.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 30, 2019 12:34:49 GMT
Don't tell me the legal trade isn't loving every minute and bathing in knowledge they are keeping the peasants away from self harming. Dissect your remark for a minute, and consider what you are trying to say and whether it is really justified.
Nearly all lawyers (like well over 99%) are not barristers involved in legal battles over the government's disregard for the British constitution and the separation of the powers (or as you put it "stopping the proles from self-harming").
Most of us, to the extent Brexit is keeping us busy, are involved in advising domestic and foreign companies on how best to Brexit-proof their businesses. Something which clearly alarms them all enough to pay good money to us corporate, commercial and finance lawyers to help find strategies and solutions.
Yet despite that apparent bounty of work, us lawyers are nevertheless apparently one of the most (if not the most) anti-Brexit categories of people in the UK. Something like 85% of lawyers oppose Brexit.
And I suspect that's because my viewpoint is commonplace in the legal profession: i.e. that we are not starry-eyed Europhiles, but merely hard-nosed Brexit-sceptics. Many of us have first hand experience of just how difficult Brexit is and just how slim the supposed rewards look when measured against the potential costs (which are not merely economic but also social - at the moment I can describe myself as an Englishman, a British citizen and a European citizen - Brexit may well just reduce me to the first of those, and to what genuine tangible benefit to me or any of us?). And it is our job a professional advisors to advise clients day in/day out on the merits of their positions. If we are sceptical of Brexit, it is for very good pragmatic reasons.
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Post by PG on Sept 30, 2019 12:37:51 GMT
I think the real winners at the moment are the management consultants, seemingly provided (sadly) by large accountancy firms. Those arseholes are making me angry in a professional capacity. As I got older and worked as an accountant in commerce I found the big accountancy firms more and more annoying and parasitic across all their functions. Audit - an exercise in getting lots of fees whilst really not achieving anything important as fraudsters or charlatans will still get round any audit and the honest just get fucked over for money in fees. And ever increasing legal hoops to jump through that don't work. Tax - charging you a huge fees to sell you really clever tax saving schemes. Oh that they then charged you another whole load of money to unravel when they didn't give the savings expected (but at least I got lots of trips to Bermuda out of that one). Management Consultancy - dreaming up a new name for some management fad that they hope nobody remembers from last time round and charging you lots of money to sell it to you. Then when it fails, coming up with the next fad. And repeat at will.... Insolvency - legally sanctioned bayonetting of the wounded.
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 30, 2019 12:47:06 GMT
Don't tell me the legal trade isn't loving every minute and bathing in knowledge they are keeping the peasants away from self harming. I think the real winners at the moment are the management consultants, seemingly provided (sadly) by large accountancy firms. Those arseholes are making me angry in a professional capacity. The real winners are likely to be the hedge funds, who have shorted a series of British businesses in the expectation of a no-deal Brexit.
Now, plenty of people will say there is no evidence that the hedge funds are doing anything they wouldn't normally do in the ordinary course of business, which is to short potentially distressed assets and go long on under-valued ones. That's being highly disingenuous.
When wealthy and powerful senior hedge fund managers like Crispin Odey are piling cash into the Tory party coffers and advising on Brexit strategy, then there is a strong stink of conflict of interest.
John Redwood. Prominent Brexiteer. Wealthy asset & investment manager
Jacob Rees-Mogg. Prominent Brexiteer. Wealthy investment & hedge fund manager
Yes, George Soros famously made a billion dollars shorting the pound in 1992. But he's an American of Hungarian origins.
Odey, Redwood, Rees-Mogg and friends. They are Brits. Never mind the free market economy - at what point do certain actions become treasonous?
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