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Post by racingteatray on Feb 22, 2019 14:21:07 GMT
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Post by michael on Feb 22, 2019 14:35:16 GMT
I'd have to see one in the metal but I think I like that. I don't entirely understand what Cupra or Seat gains from being a stand-a-lone brand. It's reminds me of DS which which in turn reminds me of Merkur and their rebadged Fords.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 15:39:37 GMT
Or the Jaguar Mondeo.
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Post by Tim on Feb 22, 2019 16:18:17 GMT
Not sure where my post went but anyway I reckon it looks like a cross between the Mazda CX 5 and any Infiniti SUV you care to pick.
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Post by racingteatray on Feb 22, 2019 16:26:30 GMT
I'd have to see one in the metal but I think I like that. I don't entirely understand what Cupra or Seat gains from being a stand-a-lone brand. I thought exactly this yesterday as I was cycling along the Embankment and noticed a black Seat people-carrier behind a black VW people-carrier, both current-generation and presumably minicabs. Apart from the shape of the lights and the wheel trims, they looked identical and it did seem a pointless waste of money on VAG's part to have to engineer both.
I always thought this was where Fiat got it wrong with its stable of brands. Nobody wanted large pointless Fiats or small ugly Lancias. Stick to what brands are known for if you have several of them:
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Post by Ben on Feb 22, 2019 16:56:04 GMT
I'd have to see one in the metal but I think I like that. I don't entirely understand what Cupra or Seat gains from being a stand-a-lone brand. It's reminds me of DS which which in turn reminds me of Merkur and their rebadged Fords. Probably because people are dumb and play word association. So instead of saying "I have a Seat" and being associated with whatever image Seat offers, they say "I have a Cupra", which sounds more exotic. It is silly but that's the way it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 17:07:37 GMT
But people who have a SEAT Cupra probably always say they have a Cupra anyway.
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Post by michael on Feb 22, 2019 19:02:51 GMT
I always thought this was where Fiat got it wrong with its stable of brands. Nobody wanted large pointless Fiats or small ugly Lancias. Stick to what brands are known for if you have several of them: This is where VAG seems confused to me. I understood that SEAT sat under the Audi sporting portfolio as the cheap sports models with Lamborghini being the other end of the spectrum. Thing is now that it seems all VAG brands are at their peak sporting, vRS with Skoda, Cupra with Seat in addition to Cupra on it's own, VW R models Audi RS models the Lamborghini, Porsche Bugatti and Bentley all being overtly sporty. When it comes to the platform based derivatives lower down the pecking order there isn't much in it on price. I thought the point of modular platforms was to offer variety but with VW it seems to be same car different hat. |
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Post by racingteatray on Feb 22, 2019 19:06:21 GMT
So long as it's "sporty", innit?
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Post by michael on Feb 22, 2019 19:20:04 GMT
It seems that way but I suppose that's what the market wants. M-Sports must outsell the SE trim 10:1, after all.
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Post by racingteatray on Feb 25, 2019 12:48:22 GMT
It seems that way but I suppose that's what the market wants. M-Sports must outsell the SE trim 10:1, after all. Well that's largely because BMW appears to design cars that nearly always look either awful or just plain dowdy in SE trim. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 28, 2019 19:09:38 GMT
I always thought this was where Fiat got it wrong with its stable of brands. Nobody wanted large pointless Fiats or small ugly Lancias. Stick to what brands are known for if you have several of them: This is where VAG seems confused to me. I understood that SEAT sat under the Audi sporting portfolio as the cheap sports models with Lamborghini being the other end of the spectrum. Thing is now that it seems all VAG brands are at their peak sporting, vRS with Skoda, Cupra with Seat in addition to Cupra on it's own, VW R models Audi RS models the Lamborghini, Porsche Bugatti and Bentley all being overtly sporty. When it comes to the platform based derivatives lower down the pecking order there isn't much in it on price. I thought the point of modular platforms was to offer variety but with VW it seems to be same car different hat. Confused and over-complex. VRS is a case in point. Only the Octavia still carries that badge now. No other Skoda does. I don't understand why VAG don't broaden that badge rather than stifle it. Instead they have Monaco for the sporty Fabia and Sportline for the Superb. Why not just have one, across the range? |
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Post by Boxer6 on Feb 28, 2019 19:47:43 GMT
This is where VAG seems confused to me. I understood that SEAT sat under the Audi sporting portfolio as the cheap sports models with Lamborghini being the other end of the spectrum. Thing is now that it seems all VAG brands are at their peak sporting, vRS with Skoda, Cupra with Seat in addition to Cupra on it's own, VW R models Audi RS models the Lamborghini, Porsche Bugatti and Bentley all being overtly sporty. When it comes to the platform based derivatives lower down the pecking order there isn't much in it on price. I thought the point of modular platforms was to offer variety but with VW it seems to be same car different hat. Confused and over-complex. VRS is a case in point. Only the Octavia still carries that badge now. No other Skoda does. I don't understand why VAG don't broaden that badge rather than stifle it. Instead they have Monaco for the sporty Fabia and Sportline for the Superb. Why not just have one, across the range? Not quite true; I saw a Kodiaq (I think) in vRS flavour in my local stealer the other week, for an eye-watering £47K+! |
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Post by Nelson on Feb 28, 2019 21:11:13 GMT
Have to say as fan of middle sized SUV's with a powerful engine I absolutely love everything about that. Looks fabulous from every angle. That's one the best looking SUV's out. Keep that as it is and price it sensibly and that will fly out of the showroom
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 1, 2019 0:35:36 GMT
Confused and over-complex. VRS is a case in point. Only the Octavia still carries that badge now. No other Skoda does. I don't understand why VAG don't broaden that badge rather than stifle it. Instead they have Monaco for the sporty Fabia and Sportline for the Superb. Why not just have one, across the range? Not quite true; I saw a Kodiaq (I think) in vRS flavour in my local stealer the other week, for an eye-watering £47K+! I hadn't even realised! |
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Post by PG on Mar 1, 2019 20:04:40 GMT
I don't entirely understand what Cupra or Seat gains from being a stand-a-lone brand. It's reminds me of DS which which in turn reminds me of Merkur and their rebadged Fords. Quite agree. Cupra as a brand seems utterly pointless. Like DS and Vignale (which now seems to have reverted to a trim level). It simply removes the halo models from SEAT's ranges, unless they'll have a SEAT XYZ Cupra as a model as a well as a Cupra XYZ. Which makes it even more confusing and pointless. |
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Post by Tim on Mar 4, 2019 10:16:00 GMT
It's the inverse of what Merc have done with AMG - take a stand alone brand and effectively reduce it to a trim level, albeit with some actual AMG cars in the mix to confuse you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 14:44:28 GMT
There's a SEAT dealership across the road and they have a Cupra Ateca parked out front and it looks exactly like the SEAT badged one a few cars along.
There's also a bigger one called a Terraco, or something like that, that had completely passed me by. Basically the big Skoda with a couple of design tweaks.
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Post by Blarno on Mar 6, 2019 12:56:02 GMT
Fermentor?
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Post by chocy on Mar 7, 2019 12:57:36 GMT
Fermentor
Harry Potter hates them...
... I think.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 8:06:07 GMT
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Post by johnc on Oct 31, 2020 9:52:27 GMT
Apparently there are ponderings occurring about this getting Audi's 5 cylinder engine as a forthcoming range topper. It's available in green, too.   That looks a bit like the new Ford Puma or is that the other way round? Are these available in the UK because I can't recall having seen one despite the fact that this thread started more than 18 months ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 10:05:00 GMT
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Post by Martin on Oct 31, 2020 13:30:22 GMT
Yes, it’s only just been launched. I had a quick look at the price list, it comes in a variety of trim levels, the top one is £43k but does have the 310hp engine and comes with a lot of kit including Nappa memory seats, leather dashboard, DCC, panoramic roof, adaptive cruise, brembo brakes, 19” wheels and loads of safety kit.
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Post by Martin on Feb 10, 2021 13:36:40 GMT
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Feb 10, 2021 15:58:24 GMT
Looks good that, I like the way the exhausts are stacked.
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Post by PG on Feb 10, 2021 17:51:01 GMT
Read something the other day (can't remember where) that said that Cupra (the brand) was going to kill SEAT the marque. As SEAT have lost their halo cars (SEAT Cupras) that attracted the younger crowd to SEAT in the first place.
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Post by ChrisM on Feb 10, 2021 22:01:14 GMT
I'm surprised that Toyota haven't objected as Supra is close to Cupra
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Post by racingteatray on Feb 10, 2021 23:01:50 GMT
I'm surprised that Toyota haven't objected as Supra is close to Cupra I always find Cupra rather weird. Somewhere between a lesser ancient Egyptian deity and a copralite. Mind you....Seat.... |
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Post by Martin on Feb 22, 2021 13:13:22 GMT
The 5 cylinder version is going to be built in limited numbers and will be LHD only.
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