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Post by LandieMark on Dec 15, 2018 21:36:58 GMT
Yes, all the print media is right biased. š
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 21:40:48 GMT
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 15, 2018 21:53:52 GMT
Stop being ridiculous, and it was Scouse, not Boxer who stated that Corbyn is an antisemite. I donāt know how you would describe the persecution of Jewish politicians inside his own party or is that actually OK?
As for the IRA connection, he was involved with Adams, (who has blood on his hands) well before the peace process. I believe he attended various functions in support of terrorist activities.
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Post by scouse on Dec 15, 2018 22:41:10 GMT
Fuck my life, if you think bbc QT is right wing, you must have been mainlining momentum bollocks like a junkie whoās won the lottery.
Fucking idiot.
To quote James Woods, INSTABLOCK!
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Post by scouse on Dec 15, 2018 22:51:52 GMT
Stop being ridiculous, and it was Scouse, not Boxer who stated that Corbyn is an antisemite. I donāt know how you would describe the persecution of Jewish politicians inside his own party or is that actually OK? As for the IRA connection, he was involved with Adams, (who has blood on his hands) well before the peace process. I believe he attended various functions in support of terrorist activities. He invited the FUCKING IRA to parliament a week after the Brighton bombing. He has NEVER condemned IRA murders, only mumbling some bollocks about not being happy about all deaths in Ireland. He laid a wreath on the grave of the murderous Black September planners of the Israeli athletes at Munich, then FUCKING LIED ABOUT IT. He stood by as an anti-Semite insulted a Jewish Labour member IN FRONT OF HIM, the laughed with the twat after sheād fled the room in tears. For a āman of peaceā, he only ever seems to be on the terrorist side of a conflict. EVEN THE BLOODY IRA DENY HE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PEACE PROCESS. The manās a cunt of the highest order.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 15, 2018 22:58:24 GMT
Iād forgotten about those. š”
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Post by Boxer6 on Dec 15, 2018 23:43:35 GMT
I'm very well aware of the difference thank you, and have pointed it out to others many times. It's no surprise to most here that my political leanings are not those of the majority; neither, though, am I a fan of Corbyn or of the Labour Party as it currently is, precisely because I too lived through 1970's strikes, power cuts and everything else that went along with them. I think my comment (as opposed to Scouse's) pretty much sums up my feelings about politicians of any and all stripes; to be utterly blunt, the more I've learned about professional (sic) politicians the more I've come to believe they are all out to feather their own nests first & foremost, with any concerns for their constituents/general population a very distant second, at best.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 19:30:15 GMT
I'm very well aware of the difference thank you, and have pointed it out to others many times. It's no surprise to most here that my political leanings are not those of the majority; neither, though, am I a fan of Corbyn or of the Labour Party as it currently is, precisely because I too lived through 1970's strikes, power cuts and everything else that went along with them. I think my comment (as opposed to Scouse's) pretty much sums up my feelings about politicians of any and all stripes; to be utterly blunt, the more I've learned about professional (sic) politicians the more I've come to believe they are all out to feather their own nests first & foremost, with any concerns for their constituents/general population a very distant second, at best. Sorry for confusion .Yes fair enough ref you point about politicians . To the other points(which are not related to you Boxer ) I never said bbc was right wing - but it allows both left and right wing a platform (its only that the right wing who feed the shite you brainlessly believe about leftie bbc.You got nothing -apart from being a monkey playing in his own filth Again , the rest is just regurgitated right wing press anti-corbyn shite.Its almost like a Russian bot on here lol .All very selective ignoring the terrorism alliances (did i mention the DUP ?) (did i mention Theresa May and the Saudis/isis ?) of many other countries and leaders.Of course when the Tories secretly met the IRA - well thats ok folks !! Or Blairs letters of comfort to IRA killers And again , maybe you should be more concerned about the authorities advance knowledge of IRA bombings..Most of the terrorism is funded and originated by the USA, Saudis and Israel (Benjamin Netanyahu. He recently attacked Corbyn for allegedly celebrating terrorism. Trouble is, in 2006, Bibi attended a conference that celebrated the 60th anniversary of Irgunās 1946 King David Hotel Bombing that killed 91 people (inc 28 Brits))- but hey that doesn't fit your twisted anti-corbynist smear campaign agenda As for "A leading British Jewish organisation has condemned Conservative MEPs after they voted in defence of Hungaryās far-right government under Viktor Orban. The Board of Deputies of British Jews said it was āvery concerningā that the Conservatives had chosen to defend Hungaryās āappalling track recordā which they pointed out included both āvivid antisemitismā and islamophobia." www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-orban-hungary-jewish-deputies-board-antisemitism-tory-british-meps-eu-vote-latest-a8535846.html
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 19:59:20 GMT
I do not believe the comments relating to Corbyn are any kind of smear, let alone a campaign. The Labour partly has been crowing on about having their biggest membership ever with a million member the high and half a million the low in their comments. How many people in the UK? What percentage of the population and the percentage of Labour members are Corbyn followers?
From the remarks Corbyn has made in the press, about putting tax up and nationalising utilities and the railways, the budget would be ruinous and I do not know anyone personally who believes they are fit to run the country. Labour keep farting on about the Tories getting out of the way and letting them take over Brexit et al. THAT is going against any kind of democracy.
People like myself have little chance of jumping ship should Labour ever get in but that is what I would want to do, a Britain under Corbyn really would be the worst bloody result going and I hope the Labour partly get a credible leader soon because even after Corbyn, the rest of the shadowed cabinet are less use than an ice pop in the desert. We NEED a credible opposition and do not have one.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 16, 2018 22:13:10 GMT
Right, Iāve had enough. I believe in differing views being aired but there is going to be some deletion at this rate.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 16, 2018 22:25:42 GMT
Monkey playing in his own filth is what does it. Bye bye Tali. Nice knowing you.
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Post by racingteatray on Dec 17, 2018 17:28:01 GMT
Yikes. A chap goes away for 5 mins and all hell breaks loose!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Dec 17, 2018 19:19:13 GMT
Damn, I'm too late, again.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 17, 2018 19:40:35 GMT
My apologies for allowing it to escalate, I thought it had calmed down into more reasoned debate, but apparently not. Itās interesting actually, you canāt prove that the so called right wing press is lying about Corbyn - the evidence of what he has done in the past is fairly overwhelming, yet the hard left still insist itās all right wing propaganda and lies.
One of my Facebook friends actually said he is the most honest politician to have existed. This is also the same acquaintance who thinks small business should be taxed as Corbyn wants as we are all on the fiddle anyway and therefore deserve it. You really canāt reason with those sort of views.
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Post by michael on Dec 17, 2018 19:53:10 GMT
I think the problem is a lot of people arenāt willing to challenge their preconceptions and will hear what they like. Itās amazing people thing Corbyn isnāt like other politicians when he is one of the longest serving career politicians in parliament.
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Post by Tim on Dec 18, 2018 9:04:10 GMT
I think the problem is a lot of people arenāt willing to challenge their preconceptions and will hear what they like. Itās amazing people thing Corbyn isnāt like other politicians when he is one of the longest serving career politicians in parliament.
It's his 'man of the people' hat.
Mind you any number of senior, male politicians (Blair, Cameron, Clegg, Osborne, etc) who have never worked a days manual labour in their life have been seen in manufacturing facilities with no tie and their sleeves rolled up. Presumably their PR people think it shows they are in touch with the workers around them.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Dec 18, 2018 9:46:20 GMT
I think the problem is a lot of people arenāt willing to challenge their preconceptions and will hear what they like. Itās amazing people thing Corbyn isnāt like other politicians when he is one of the longest serving career politicians in parliament.
It's his 'man of the people' hat.
Mind you any number of senior, male politicians (Blair, Cameron, Clegg, Osborne, etc) who have never worked a days manual labour in their life have been seen in manufacturing facilities with no tie and their sleeves rolled up. Presumably their PR people think it shows they are in touch with the workers around them.
They'd have to take their ties off for Health & Safety. FWIW, I don't believe Corbyn hates Jews in a traditional anti-semitic way, I just thinks he buys into that whole Socialist mantra that somewhere there is cabal of Jewish bankers conspiring to keep them in poverty. His naivety means he becomes the gullible fool for organisations like the IRA and Hamas to exploit.
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 18, 2018 11:19:45 GMT
His naivety means he becomes the gullible fool for organisations like the IRA and Hamas to exploit. That's Corbyn in one sentence. He's even being played by the loony left in his own party membership who are holding him up as "their" leader when in actuality they want to push an agenda of jealousy politics that will lead to national destitution. We should all be moving to Hungary: 4.2% unemployment; a massive brain drain leading to offers of housing and support, cheap living, girls that know how to shag you to death and if that' not enough the M1, which is the best paved, least speed controlled motorway in Central Europe - basically if you've paid the E-Vignette stick your foot down.
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Post by LandieMark on Dec 13, 2019 23:42:14 GMT
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