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Post by Boxer6 on Jan 31, 2019 21:19:10 GMT
I had an 850GLT estate way back when; IIRC, it was a 1995 'M' in gold. Managed to transport me, my then wife, 8-year old daughter and a rather large, bouncy Dobermann to both Marker Rasen racecourse and Blackpool (on different weekends!) to compete in dog shows. Both times we had a large tent, varying quantities of food etc for us and the dog, a folded-down crate (Dobe sized) toys (for the dog) and other stuff, all of which fitted inside with no hassle. My dad had a 245, which was the estate version of his first 244; it was really rather nice for a big Volvo, and big enough in the back to be a very comfortable passion wagon! I had a Sierra Estate which was fit for the same purpose, it was a Ghia, so a slightly thicker carpet helped on the comfort level. Sorry Boxer has lowered the tone. I'm glad you are enjoying the new car Stu. Jeez; you turn up five minutes ago and on my case already!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 1, 2019 15:18:45 GMT
Enjoying the VRS very much indeed, thank you.
As for the V60 ride, yes it was firm and I think it was about ready for the shocks to be replaced to be honest. I replaced the shocks on the V50 and it did wonders for the ride. The VRS is firm as well and tire pressures make a very noticeable difference. I can tell the dealer checked and adjusted all the pressures from my 2.3bar to the recommended 2.4 as it is just slightly on the wrong side of comfortable to me, on our shitty roads. Dropping to 2.3 takes that edge off.
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Post by Martin on Feb 1, 2019 15:29:29 GMT
Enjoying the VRS very much indeed, thank you. As for the V60 ride, yes it was firm and I think it was about ready for the shocks to be replaced to be honest. I replaced the shocks on the V50 and it did wonders for the ride. The VRS is firm as well and tire pressures make a very noticeable difference. I can tell the dealer checked and adjusted all the pressures from my 2.3bar to the recommended 2.4 as it is just slightly on the wrong side of comfortable to me, on our shitty roads. Dropping to 2.3 takes that edge off. Does it have Adaptive Dampers?
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 5, 2019 8:21:10 GMT
No, just the standard dampers. When I was looking I didn't see many at all with adaptive dampers.
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Post by Martin on Feb 5, 2019 8:47:40 GMT
No, just the standard dampers. When I was looking I didn't see many at all with adaptive dampers. That’s a shame, I’m sure it would help. I confess to spending the majority of the time in comfort in the Golf. But that’s because I spend the majority of my time on dual carriageway motorway. I’ve set up Individual for A Roads; steering in race, comfort suspension, fake sound off, headlight and Voodoo cruise in race.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 5, 2019 9:21:09 GMT
No, just the standard dampers. When I was looking I didn't see many at all with adaptive dampers. That’s a shame, I’m sure it would help. I confess to spending the majority of the time in comfort in the Golf. But that’s because I spend the majority of my time on dual carriageway motorway. I’ve set up Individual for A Roads; steering in race, comfort suspension, fake sound off, headlight and Voodoo cruise in race. If only I had that many options! I've got used to the ride over a few days now. In fact I don't notice it so much unless the surface is very poor. I have a tendency to steer around the worst imperfections and manhole covers if it's safe and practical do so anyway. The most choice I have is in "Individual" Throttle - standard Active headlights - sport (they are more bendy) Steering - standard Air con - Eco (although come the warmer weather that might change) I only get the Soundaktuator in Sport but it just adds some low rev grumble so I'm not overly bothered by it. Sport is semi useful on a decent road for sharpening up the throttle response and weighting up the steering but 99% of the time it is in Individual. Eco doesn't get a look in. I'm toying with buying OBDeleven to faff about with some settings such as activating features that Skoda would charge you a few hundred quid for at the point of ordering but which are all in the software already.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 20:20:01 GMT
No, just the standard dampers. When I was looking I didn't see many at all with adaptive dampers. That’s a shame, I’m sure it would help. I confess to spending the majority of the time in comfort in the Golf. But that’s because I spend the majority of my time on dual carriageway motorway. I’ve set up Individual for A Roads; steering in race, comfort suspension, fake sound off, headlight and Voodoo cruise in race. Does the Golf have an "Eco" mode? D - Drive S -Sport M - Manual E - Eco
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Post by Martin on Feb 6, 2019 0:06:51 GMT
That’s a shame, I’m sure it would help. I confess to spending the majority of the time in comfort in the Golf. But that’s because I spend the majority of my time on dual carriageway motorway. I’ve set up Individual for A Roads; steering in race, comfort suspension, fake sound off, headlight and Voodoo cruise in race. Does the Golf have an "Eco" mode? D - Drive S -Sport M - Manual E - Eco It does. Eco, Comfort, Normal, Race and Individual. The gearbox has Eco, Normal and Sport Auto plus Manual and S manual, which is less complex that it sounds as the auto modes change with the drive modes, but you can select sport auto by pulling back on the lever in any mode and moving it to the left when it Sport Auto outs it into S Manual.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 10:04:57 GMT
That sounds familiar, Eco is awful, it makes the engine labour a little at times and I'm not sure that the DSG coast mode is beneficial?
As for the selector, it sounds identical. Most of the time pulling the lever back putting the gearbox into Sport Auto which causes the gearbox to select a more "appropriate" gear before an overtake is all that is required, then once past a simple pull back on the lever to put the car back into Drive to proceed.
Keeping it in Sport or is too much of an exercise in restraint.
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Post by Martin on Feb 7, 2019 10:18:19 GMT
That sounds familiar, Eco is awful, it makes the engine labour a little at times and I'm not sure that the DSG coast mode is beneficial? As for the selector, it sounds identical. Most of the time pulling the lever back putting the gearbox into Sport Auto which causes the gearbox to select a more "appropriate" gear before an overtake is all that is required, then once past a simple pull back on the lever to put the car back into Drive to proceed. Keeping it in Sport or is too much of an exercise in restraint. I don’t use Eco. Yes, going into sport auto helps with an overtake and is easier than changing the mode, but I prefer to drop a couple of gears manually using the paddles as it avoids going into an unnecessarily low gear. Bit different in the 750, as that doesn’t need many revs to really go, meaning I often short shift rather than lift off and enjoy the torque and full throtttle for longer, but it sounds fantastic at the top end of the Rev range
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Post by Andy C on Feb 7, 2019 14:27:52 GMT
I didn’t realise manual had 2 settings . When I test drove the Cupra I just put the box into sport and then used the paddles when I wanted to . Presuming the difference between manual and manual s is just quicker changes ?
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Post by Martin on Feb 7, 2019 14:39:58 GMT
I didn’t realise manual had 2 settings . When I test drove the Cupra I just put the box into sport and then used the paddles when I wanted to . Presuming the difference between manual and manual s is just quicker changes ? Slightly quicker changes and more of a throttle ‘blip’ when changing down, but the biggest difference is it stays in Manual rather than reverting to auto after a short while.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 15:15:21 GMT
Cupra also engages the sound "thingy", changes the LSD settings and stiffens the suspension.
It is a bit much unless you are really throwing the car about...
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Post by Tim on Feb 7, 2019 16:50:57 GMT
I've used Eco Pro (?) on the 320 a couple of times but its truly awful for a minimal saving and it always feels as if the brakes are binding a bit!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 22:07:17 GMT
Yep, 7th gear at around 40mph seems to be pushing its luck a bit.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 16, 2019 10:12:27 GMT
obdeleven.com/en/Just ordered OBDEleven. Looking forward to having a play with some of the settings and enabling a couple of features.
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Post by bryan on Feb 16, 2019 10:53:39 GMT
That looks interesting - how does the credit charging system work ie the ultimate pack comes with 500 credits what does that get you? Assume more than one oil service reset?
One day I'd like to activate the large central MPH readout in the Yeti - so maybe worth getting one
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Post by Martin on Feb 16, 2019 11:00:37 GMT
Modder! It does look useful, as you can turn off things that annoy such as the headlight washers as well as activating different features. One watch out, obdeleven only works with Android
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 16, 2019 11:59:06 GMT
That looks interesting - how does the credit charging system work ie the ultimate pack comes with 500 credits what does that get you? Assume more than one oil service reset? One day I'd like to activate the large central MPH readout in the Yeti - so maybe worth getting one Not fully worked it out yet. I've bought 100 credits for 12.99 and already have 20 credits free. In short the VCDS system that dealers use costs a lot so the developers of this system charge for credits rather than upfront fees. It's possible (probable, even) that my OBDeleven would sort that feature on your Yeti if we meet up at some point. You do need to be careful with the manual coding that you don't irretrievably delete or change anything and cause serious problems, so I need to do a little research. Briskoda.net has a thread with verified changes that don't cause problems. It's really interesting what little changes you can do with all the electronic systems.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Feb 16, 2019 12:01:06 GMT
Modder! It does look useful, as you can turn off things that annoy such as the headlight washers as well as activating different features. One watch out, obdeleven only works with Android Slight modder. Yes, Android only, although a cheap Android phone would suffice just to use with the app.
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Post by bryan on Feb 16, 2019 20:55:06 GMT
That looks interesting - how does the credit charging system work ie the ultimate pack comes with 500 credits what does that get you? Assume more than one oil service reset? One day I'd like to activate the large central MPH readout in the Yeti - so maybe worth getting one Not fully worked it out yet. I've bought 100 credits for 12.99 and already have 20 credits free. In short the VCDS system that dealers use costs a lot so the developers of this system charge for credits rather than upfront fees. It's possible (probable, even) that my OBDeleven would sort that feature on your Yeti if we meet up at some point. You do need to be careful with the manual coding that you don't irretrievably delete or change anything and cause serious problems, so I need to do a little research. Briskoda.net has a thread with verified changes that don't cause problems. It's really interesting what little changes you can do with all the electronic systems. That would be great! I think it is achieved by changing the country code to Australia from UK and it opens up some menus. Would get my bollocks served up to me if I cocked up her car though 😀😀😀
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 8, 2019 10:15:46 GMT
I did a thing. I bought and fitted one of these: www.diesel-performance.co.uk/tuning/car/skoda/octavia-iii-vrs-from-2012-onwards/2-0-tdi-184ps135kw-1968-ccm-17/#goI've gone for the CRDT+ box. I guess I was missing some of the performance of the V60, if not the running costs! I fitted it yesterday and, out of 18 available settings, it's on 2-2, which is about where the forums seem to suggest is a good balance. I agree, it's linear, smooth and bloody hell, it pulls like the V60 used to. Feels absolutely effortless at lower RPMs, needing less throttle than before for 30 or 40mph and is happy to sit in a higher gear. By 3k rpm it just pulls relentlessly. I've done this rather than a remap as it is cheaper, easily removable (10 minutes to fit/remove) and can be sold on or reprogrammed for another vehicle if needed. Reviews generally seem very favourable, with no ill effects unless using one of the more extreme settings - which seems a bit pointless given that power and torque are supposed to be the same regardless of programme, the only differences being how and when delivered. In day to day driving I shouldn't notice any mpg difference, although I will need to see how to adjust the trip computer accuracy to compensate, by doing a couple of brim to brim refills and seeing how for out it is. OBDeleven should give access to adjust it. So yes Martin, I'm a modder!
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Post by Martin on Mar 8, 2019 10:19:44 GMT
Oh dear...as long as you’re happy!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 8, 2019 10:24:37 GMT
Oh dear...as long as you’re happy! Horrified, aren't you?
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Post by Martin on Mar 8, 2019 10:26:47 GMT
Oh dear...as long as you’re happy! Horrified, aren't you? Not at all!! I can see the appeal of more oomph for a relatively small amount of money.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 8, 2019 10:36:31 GMT
These sort of things always seem too good to be true - surely there must be a downside?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 10:44:04 GMT
Interesting. We'll have to aim for another get-together later in the year!
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 8, 2019 10:52:59 GMT
Bob, I'd be wary on a petrol, preferring a remap, but diesels have always been easily tunable by altering the boost and fuelling. You can get cheap tuning boxes and I wouldn't bother with one of those but the DTUK boxes are individually developed and tested and I reckon they are much more trustworthy. Proven on dyno tests as well. I have no intention of using a setting that will give peaky "all or nothing" power delivery and the setting it's on now is where it will stay as it feels ideal. The only downside to how it now feels is the narrow diesel power band - I do miss the higher rev range of the petrol but you can't always have it all ways. And c. 230bhp and 500Nm but 45mpg+ and 30 quid road tax is a pretty attractive combination after all.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 8, 2019 10:56:57 GMT
Interesting. We'll have to aim for another get-together later in the year! Absolutely!
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Post by johnc on Mar 8, 2019 10:57:10 GMT
These sort of things always seem too good to be true - surely there must be a downside? I remember reading an article that said the engines have to be set up to work in almost any environment with poor quality fuels and as a result they are far from their optimum set up. In the UK and most 1st world countries, fuel quality is high and the extremes of cold or heat are highly unlikely to arise, so careful tuning just makes the engine run more efficiently giving better economy and better performance. Win win.
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