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Boris
Feb 15, 2018 19:12:08 GMT
Post by racingteatray on Feb 15, 2018 19:12:08 GMT
Very surprised I’d have to given his past track record. Just Black Wednesday, or is there more to it?
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Boris
Jul 9, 2018 15:43:03 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 9, 2018 15:43:03 GMT
So, Boris again. What next?
I don't think David Davis is worthy of a separate thread.
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Boris
Jul 9, 2018 15:48:13 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 15:48:13 GMT
Are any of them?
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Boris
Jul 9, 2018 21:19:52 GMT
Post by Roadrunner on Jul 9, 2018 21:19:52 GMT
They are going against the tide of the majority of public opinion and, therefore, what the majority of the Conservative Party will support.
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Boris
Jul 10, 2018 12:38:25 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 10, 2018 12:38:25 GMT
They are going against the tide of the majority of public opinion and, therefore, what the majority of the Conservative Party will support.
Do you mean Boris, or the remainder of the Cabinet?
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Boris
Jul 10, 2018 13:15:58 GMT
Post by Big Blue on Jul 10, 2018 13:15:58 GMT
They are going against the tide of the majority of public opinion and, therefore, what the majority of the Conservative Party will support.
Do you mean Boris, or the remainder of the Cabinet?
Yes: I thought that. Trouble is we don't know what the opinion of 30+% of the voters is as they didn't vote. They could be raging Europhiles for all we know, or foaming isolationists. What we do know is that the EU are sitting back, looking at the UK and simply saying: "no, we won't do that" so in order to stop the UK having 3-5 years of eating plum jam, relying on Land Girls and having to make our own coffee the UK has to make concessions on what is perceived by some as being "Brexit": ie we have nothing to do with the EU and if they want to buy stuff they have to put up with it being built to BS or ISO as opposed to being CE approved. Thing is the economic element of the relationship with the EU was never looked at by voters beyond "we could spend the money we send to the EU on the NHS to stop it becoming more of a basket case", forgetting that the money made to send to the EU was made as a result of the trade, manufacturing and labour force we got from the... er... EU. A balanced exit is what is required but balance is not evident in the actions of the people that think the UK can survive against an economy that is led by the force that is Germany and the mentality that is France.
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Boris
Jul 10, 2018 15:06:54 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 10, 2018 15:06:54 GMT
In addition, while a small majority of the voters poted for an exit from the EU there is no indication of how many wanted a 'hard' Brexit - along the lines that appears to be in favour with the likes of Rees-Mogg (despite the actions of the investment firm he co-owns and takes a salary from!).
So, in my opinion, the MPs should be ensuring that we leave but that we do everything possible to protect trade, etc. That way they are most likely to get something that comes closest to satisfying the majority of the electorate.
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Boris
Jul 10, 2018 18:09:20 GMT
Post by PG on Jul 10, 2018 18:09:20 GMT
I read today that what May has tried to do is suggest to effectively re-create "the Common Market" - which the UK was happy to be in as we always viewed membership to be about trade and commerce - and get rid of all the other political union stuff that was what really upset people and is the direction the EU wants to go in. If you look at it in terms of the Three Pillars of the EU, in theory it is only the first one that is run by the EU. The rest are supposed to be by inter-governmental co-operation. But as the EU has tried to move into those second and third pillar areas, things have become a lot more murky. If May's plan comes off, then we can elect to be in certain areas of the First Pillar (about trade); and choose to act in an inter-governmental fashion on the Second and Third of we choose to. So, as said above, it is probably the best solution to Brexit. However, what happens now if the EU Commission throw up all over her plans? She has said no free movement, we are leaving the CAP and CFP for example. If any more concessions are demanded - like of free movement that is part of the First Pillar - then she will be toast politically very quickly. But I think her logic is that as long as free movement is stopped, pretty much anything else can be sold to people. She has always seen Brexit as the end of free movement and little else.
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Boris
Jul 13, 2018 11:08:42 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 13, 2018 11:08:42 GMT
So it looks like Boris will be the next PM. The Leader of the Free World has spoken.
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Boris
Jul 13, 2018 11:33:12 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 13, 2018 11:33:12 GMT
It's exactly what we need. With these 2 fantastic statesmen in charge our Special Relationship will be wonderful, the rest of the wotld can f#+8 off, our trade will be immense and everything will be just Great.
That is, until Trump gets impeached in 2 years time and Boris (plus his treasury minister Rees-Mogg) is run out of town on a rail by the 99% of the population who can't speak Latin/don't know what a Mugglewhump is/can't stand buffoonery.
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Boris
Jul 13, 2018 12:02:14 GMT
Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 13, 2018 12:02:14 GMT
Trump won't get impeached. He's a dead cert for re-election in 2020. We've got him for 6 more years.
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Jul 13, 2018 12:36:36 GMT
Post by Tim on Jul 13, 2018 12:36:36 GMT
I know. Then his automaton wife (one of them, I'm sure there are several versions of the current Mrs Trump) can take over. Or his smug son/son-in-law/other close-by accolite.
It's a dynasty!!
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Jul 13, 2018 20:11:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2018 20:11:14 GMT
It's a dysentery. Fixed post.
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