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Eco-Hatch
Sept 3, 2023 9:28:19 GMT
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Post by Martin on Sept 3, 2023 9:28:19 GMT
And to my GTS, which on a run to Suffolk yesterday was showing 29.8mpg. Starting without any electric range it does 36-38mpg on a run, so the energy recovery / deployment works pretty well.
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Sept 3, 2023 13:37:29 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 3, 2023 13:37:29 GMT
What’s mileage on yours? Mine is still only on 3500 miles
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Post by Martin on Sept 3, 2023 13:43:22 GMT
What’s mileage on yours? Mine is still only on 3500 miles 11,170. I've done 3,700 since the 10th June.
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Sept 4, 2023 13:34:13 GMT
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Post by cbeaks1 on Sept 4, 2023 13:34:13 GMT
The 14 year old 520d just did 250 miles to Edgbaston and back at 65.2mpg. Very impressive. I did have to pay £8 ulez though.
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Post by Martin on Sept 4, 2023 14:32:11 GMT
The 14 year old 520d just did 250 miles to Edgbaston and back at 65.2mpg. Very impressive. I did have to pay £8 ulez though. That is impressive. Mine averaged around 45mpg, with the occasional brim to brim on the high 40s, but it was driven pretty hard and my motorway cruising speed was a lot higher 10 years ago.
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Sept 5, 2023 22:39:44 GMT
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Post by racingteatray on Sept 5, 2023 22:39:44 GMT
Got 31.6mpg without trying as an average on the way back to London this evening. That was at an average of 49mph (for which you can blame crawling back across central London at 20mph) over 120 miles of mixed rural, motorway and urban and did include a couple of proper stabs of the accelerator.
All in all I had feared worse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2023 0:14:45 GMT
It does seem fair considering the route, speed etc.
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 6, 2023 8:49:24 GMT
And to my GTS, which on a run to Suffolk yesterday was showing 29.8mpg. Starting without any electric range it does 36-38mpg on a run, so the energy recovery / deployment works pretty well. You clearly charge more than I do and your hybrid system is far more efficient than Eva's. That said the summer trip was 6,100kms and averaged 38.8mpg. on the long runs it was over 40mpg a couple of times - that's 4 up and fully loaded. Still waiting for full pictures of the next gen Panamera and 5er Touring as I'm halfway through the 4 years with this one and that means I need to consider speccing late next year / Jan 2025. I'm also considering full electric having seen a marked increase in charging stations this summer.......
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Post by Martin on Sept 6, 2023 10:07:33 GMT
Starting without any electric range it does 36-38mpg on a run, so the energy recovery / deployment works pretty well. You clearly charge more than I do and your hybrid system is far more efficient than Eva's. That said the summer trip was 6,100kms and averaged 38.8mpg. on the long runs it was over 40mpg a couple of times - that's 4 up and fully loaded. Still waiting for full pictures of the next gen Panamera and 5er Touring as I'm halfway through the 4 years with this one and that means I need to consider speccing late next year / Jan 2025. I'm also considering full electric having seen a marked increase in charging stations this summer....... 6,100kms….that’s a proper road trip!
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Post by PetrolEd on Sept 6, 2023 11:23:00 GMT
Starting without any electric range it does 36-38mpg on a run, so the energy recovery / deployment works pretty well. You clearly charge more than I do and your hybrid system is far more efficient than Eva's. That said the summer trip was 6,100kms and averaged 38.8mpg. on the long runs it was over 40mpg a couple of times - that's 4 up and fully loaded. Still waiting for full pictures of the next gen Panamera and 5er Touring as I'm halfway through the 4 years with this one and that means I need to consider speccing late next year / Jan 2025. I'm also considering full electric having seen a marked increase in charging stations this summer....... That's a hell of a lot of stopping to charge in 6,100Km.
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 6, 2023 11:43:23 GMT
That's a hell of a lot of stopping to charge in 6,100Km. Agreed but looking at the break down of the trip, some short toilet stops in the longer legs of the trip would push the batteries to the eating stops with a longer charge time. It's still unlikely I'll try it but I saw a couple of Scandinavian registered EVs so I wouldn't be some kind of pioneer. Where we stopped for longer there was charging at some: Disneyland Paris; an overnight in Mačon; in-laws (although I'd probably catch fire to their electrics! so I didn't try); Mum's house. However where there wasn't any overnight charging was: Strasbourg (overnight hotel); Izola (Slovenia) where the resort had none and these anomalies are what make people like me reticent to go fully electric. I could add in "charging available" to my hotel and resort searches but that would probably increase the costs of the trip (I spent enough as it was!). I guess journey planning around charging is the way to avoid any panic but on the way back I took the D-roads up to Grenoble and on to Maćon - no charging up in them there mountains! and driving uphill in 35 o with aircon and seat cooling is going to pummel range. I note the next gen Cayenne has proper switches for aircon and the assumption is the Panamera will have too. That's one area where most others have fucked right up in their interior designers' race for iPhone-emulation when it's not wanted.
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Post by chipbutty on Sept 6, 2023 13:17:23 GMT
240 miles to Newcastle - 32 mpg recorded on the way out, 32.2 mpg on the way back. Saving the Polar Bears one mile at a time
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Post by Tim on Sept 11, 2023 7:12:02 GMT
I'm just back from a week in Ullapool. I didn't record economy but on the way up there I left the house with a range of 251 miles and got to Inverness - 133 miles later - with a range of 238 miles!
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Eco-Hatch
Sept 11, 2023 8:10:04 GMT
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Post by clunes on Sept 11, 2023 8:10:04 GMT
I'm just back from a week in Ullapool. I didn't record economy but on the way up there I left the house with a range of 251 miles and got to Inverness - 133 miles later - with a range of 238 miles! I enjoy those times when I’m driving and see the mileage estimate go up. The vast majority of my driving is short journeys on smaller roads and I have a heavy right foot so my average consumption is poor but the N52 engine can be fairly frugal on the motorway so I can travel quite some distance without seeing any drop.
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Post by johnc on Sept 11, 2023 9:15:30 GMT
That's a hell of a lot of stopping to charge in 6,100Km. Agreed but looking at the break down of the trip, some short toilet stops in the longer legs of the trip would push the batteries to the eating stops with a longer charge time. It's still unlikely I'll try it but I saw a couple of Scandinavian registered EVs so I wouldn't be some kind of pioneer. Where we stopped for longer there was charging at some: Disneyland Paris; an overnight in Mačon; in-laws (although I'd probably catch fire to their electrics! so I didn't try); Mum's house. However where there wasn't any overnight charging was: Strasbourg (overnight hotel); Izola (Slovenia) where the resort had none and these anomalies are what make people like me reticent to go fully electric. I could add in "charging available" to my hotel and resort searches but that would probably increase the costs of the trip (I spent enough as it was!). I guess journey planning around charging is the way to avoid any panic but on the way back I took the D-roads up to Grenoble and on to Maćon - no charging up in them there mountains! and driving uphill in 35 o with aircon and seat cooling is going to pummel range. I note the next gen Cayenne has proper switches for aircon and the assumption is the Panamera will have too. That's one area where most others have fucked right up in their interior designers' race for iPhone-emulation when it's not wanted. You have to remember that the cost of charging on the road is astronomical. Charging from home is somewhere around 31p/Kwh or as low as 7.5p/Kwh if you have a night time EV tariff with someone like Octopus. On the road, the minimum charge is now around 75p/Kwh with many charging 79p or the highest we have seen, 83p/Kwh. At 75p/Kwh and motorway speeds, that it the equivalent of about 20mpg. Even I get 31/32mpg at motorway speeds.
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Post by Tim on Sept 11, 2023 11:02:40 GMT
I'm just back from a week in Ullapool. I didn't record economy but on the way up there I left the house with a range of 251 miles and got to Inverness - 133 miles later - with a range of 238 miles! I enjoy those times when I’m driving and see the mileage estimate go up. The vast majority of my driving is short journeys on smaller roads and I have a heavy right foot so my average consumption is poor but the N52 engine can be fairly frugal on the motorway so I can travel quite some distance without seeing any drop. I have the same issue with short journeys and a heavy right foot but there's no point in having a fast car and then dawdling all the time
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Post by Big Blue on Sept 11, 2023 16:56:26 GMT
You have to remember that the cost of charging on the road is astronomical. Charging from home is somewhere around 31p/Kwh or as low as 7.5p/Kwh if you have a night time EV tariff with someone like Octopus. On the road, the minimum charge is now around 75p/Kwh with many charging 79p or the highest we have seen, 83p/Kwh. At 75p/Kwh and motorway speeds, that it the equivalent of about 20mpg. Even I get 31/32mpg at motorway speeds. Yes: I must say this is another reason to maintain the Hybrid ownership: charge where it's cost effective only. I stopped charging Eva at the Country Club because the cost is simply not worth the bother. I can get better value for money rolling off the throttle and recuperation charging on the hill back to Epsom!
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