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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2022 21:36:06 GMT
Your definition of a european war is your business. Believe whatever you wish but, try not to dictate your belief to me, OK? The eu also dictated to the Germans that they keep the Romanian travelers within Germany and they were escorted over the border. Germany was also informed that coal was to be phased out. Germany is still shutting its nuclear power stations and continuing to develop coal for power generation which they will be using for a good while yet. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sas-troops-are-training-local-forces-in-ukraine-32vs5bjzbThis is still a conversation I take it?
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Post by Big Blue on May 20, 2022 22:05:24 GMT
If that headline said that SAS troops are training Russian troops it would be but it remains all against one.
And Germany unilaterally decided to cancel nuclear power which was a combination of pressures of waste and scale of accident despite its remoteness in the face of a particularly nervous electorate. If UK was in any way the owner of a political spine it would’ve behaved as all the other EU nations: in the collective good of all states whilst maintaining the national interest. If Germany burning coal was such an issue to the UK it could’ve raised it across the EU and bought pressure from the wider union to accelerate the cessation so that the kittens would all survive to breathe fresh air. But now, of course, the coal is being burned and it’s none of the UK’s business.
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Post by PetrolEd on May 21, 2022 7:14:51 GMT
I like to compare the uk leaving is a bit like Ferrari leaving F1 and joining formula E.
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Post by LandieMark on May 21, 2022 7:45:09 GMT
Your definition of a european war is your business. Believe whatever you wish but, try not to dictate your belief to me, OK? The eu also dictated to the Germans that they keep the Romanian travelers within Germany and they were escorted over the border. Germany was also informed that coal was to be phased out. Germany is still shutting its nuclear power stations and continuing to develop coal for power generation which they will be using for a good while yet. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sas-troops-are-training-local-forces-in-ukraine-32vs5bjzbThis is still a conversation I take it? Calm down. Nobody is dictating their views to you. It's called debate and Jeff is merely pointing out why he thinks you are wrong. If you are unable to deal with that then step away from the debate.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 21, 2022 13:35:25 GMT
I like to compare the uk leaving is a bit like Ferrari leaving F1 and joining formula E. Is Formula E not the future?
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Post by Big Blue on May 21, 2022 13:46:25 GMT
I like to compare the uk leaving is a bit like Ferrari leaving F1 and joining formula E. Is Formula E not the future? Having heard the horrible sound that that Porsche made in the video John C shared: no!
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Post by ChrisM on May 21, 2022 17:25:38 GMT
Is Formula E not the future? Having heard the horrible sound that that Porsche made in the video John C shared: no! +1 I read a few weeks ago (OK so it was an article from about 18 months ago) that if we all go over to electric cars on "mainland" Great Britain, electricity generation will have to increase by one-third to provide the power for recharging. We'll need quite a few new power stations and loads more charging points too...... how much will that cost in financial terms and on draining the world's resources? And where do we get the fuel from to run the power stations?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on May 21, 2022 19:41:05 GMT
Having heard the horrible sound that that Porsche made in the video John C shared: no! +1 I read a few weeks ago (OK so it was an article from about 18 months ago) that if we all go over to electric cars on "mainland" Great Britain, electricity generation will have to increase by one-third to provide the power for recharging. We'll need quite a few new power stations and loads more charging points too...... how much will that cost in financial terms and on draining the world's resources? And where do we get the fuel from to run the power stations? Not necessarily. Renewables generate 24/7 so there is a large surplus through the night,ideal to charge cars.
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Post by ChrisM on May 22, 2022 8:38:13 GMT
Not everyone will be able to, or want to recharge overnight, plus solar panels don't work very well at night
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Post by Big Blue on May 22, 2022 8:51:09 GMT
The other issue is that there is a much lower take up of personal transport by the current generation. Ergo, we won’t need to power the same number of cars as we currently fuel in 30 years time.
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Post by PetrolEd on May 23, 2022 10:56:58 GMT
I like to compare the uk leaving is a bit like Ferrari leaving F1 and joining formula E. Is Formula E not the future? I'm guessing you haven't watched it yet and judging by the viewing figures you're not alone.
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Post by PG on May 23, 2022 15:20:10 GMT
Interesting point made in the news this morning - basically how green politics at the same time both central and yet toxic to politics.
Climate change is an inescapable reality, but the technology for reducing carbon use cheaply isn’t quite there yet, and the cost of transition is being passed on to you and me. The faster we go, the higher the price.
That’s tricky for the centre-Right because it means dumping the costs on to taxpayers; it’s painful for the Left because it means hitting consumers hard. But the direction of policy across the West is towards the active impoverishment of its citizens, and the larger and more powerful the rump of Green grows, the harder it’s going to be to slow down or rethink. Energy needs are up post-Covid; Russian boycotts demand that we raise productivity. But at the very moment when a bit more coal, fracking or North Sea exploration would be helpful, these are about to become uncrossable lines (the interesting question is, can the Greens be won over to nuclear?).
It’s amazing to think that our elites ever imagined going green was easy, a surefire way of saving the planet, energising the young and even saving the old politics.
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Post by Tim on May 24, 2022 7:38:18 GMT
Given the crisis in Ukraine I'm surprised there hasn't been a call for more North Sea production. If you think about it it makes perfect sense (in some ways at least) because we still need oil for 'stuff' - not just transport - and its locally produced under pretty stringent safety and environmental rules. Compare that with shipping it thousands of miles from some despotic country (Russia, the Middle East in general, etc) and it'd be hard to object.
The only 'but' in my mind would be the cost of production, I'm guessing N Sea oil is expensive to recover.
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 19, 2022 20:55:36 GMT
Just had notification through from my energy provider, my current tarif is due to expire at the end of July. From approx £150 per month, the cheapest new tarif they are offering is just over £450 per month, a 3-fold increase, and that has a variable element built in to it due to "government policy" on charges for infrastructure and other crap. I knew prices had risen considerably this year, but 3-fold?
Option of fixing it for 1, 2 or 3 years. I think that probably for the first time ever, one year would be the best option. I'll also check other suppliers for pricing......
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Post by Martin on Jun 19, 2022 21:19:02 GMT
Just had notification through from my energy provider, my current tarif is due to expire at the end of July. From approx £150 per month, the cheapest new tarif they are offering is just over £450 per month, a 3-fold increase, and that has a variable element built in to it due to "government policy" on charges for infrastructure and other crap. I knew prices had risen considerably this year, but 3-fold? Option of fixing it for 1, 2 or 3 years. I think that probably for the first time ever, one year would be the best option. I'll also check other suppliers for pricing...... That sounds a lot Chris, even at the new rates. I”d shop around and compare both the standing charges and rates. I’ve note seen any fixed deal that’s better than variable.
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Post by Big Blue on Jun 19, 2022 21:48:57 GMT
Yeah: I’d tell them to do one. That’s putting all the rise risk on you whether it happens or not. I’m on a variable rate; we are hardly the most efficient house or power users and haven’t changed our habits at all and pay around £100 less than that on a DD. I did the DD increase estimate when the price rise was announced and I was about 50p out on what EDF advised.
Also your previous deal was ludicrously low so the current provider is looking to recover from you.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 19, 2022 22:11:14 GMT
We’re on a fixed gas and electric deal from EDF for £147 a month that expires next Feb. I hope it’s costing the French twats a fortune to subsidise it. 😀 In fact I might put my heating back on.
I was talking to a Swedish colleague who lives outside of Stockholm and heats his home via a heat pump. He normally pays 380 euros a month but his last bill jumped to 1100 euros.
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Post by Alex on Jun 20, 2022 5:13:45 GMT
Our deal expired on 31st March which was perfect timing! I'm not on a set direct debit. I just submit a meter read each month and they automatically take the resulting bill. Last month it was just over £60 whereas May last you was about £40 so a 50% increase which is more or less what the increase in the price cap is.
I'm being much more careful about how much we cook with gas and am being more conscious of turning things off of standby overnight.
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Post by rodge on Jun 20, 2022 7:06:01 GMT
Not sure how the economy is going but there are a ton of jobs here that can’t be filled. Both skilled and unskilled positions.
We’ve put a holding deposit on a house that’s costing us over half a million euro. Because we lived outside the country, the bank is taking forever to approve our mortgage application, which is for less than 40% of the total cost. They say we need to be able to prove our ability to pay our mortgage. The last 24 years of payments on mortgages on 4 different mortgages seem to count for nothing…
We’ve been asked to snag the house this week even though we’ve signed nothing yet!
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 20, 2022 7:33:40 GMT
Not sure how the economy is going but there are a ton of jobs here that can’t be filled. Both skilled and unskilled positions. We’ve put a holding deposit on a house that’s costing us over half a million euro. Because we lived outside the country, the bank is taking forever to approve our mortgage application, which is for less than 40% of the total cost. They say we need to be able to prove our ability to pay our mortgage. The last 24 years of payments on mortgages on 4 different mortgages seem to count for nothing… We’ve been asked to snag the house this week even though we’ve signed nothing yet! Bloody Brexit!
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Post by Alex on Jun 20, 2022 13:51:55 GMT
It's the same in the UK with all sectors struggling to find workers to fill positions. Ironically one such organisation is the border force who are responsible for trying to deport people who are desperately trying to cross the channel from France with an aim to getting a job.
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Post by PG on Jun 20, 2022 18:45:31 GMT
Our electric supplier went bust earlier this year - and based on their prices it was only a matter of time once the wholesale price blew up. We were moved to British Gas. I reckon we're paying double what we were this time last year.
I've just got an outline quote from a local supplier for a 6 kVa solar PV system plus backup battery. He said he's never been so busy. We've applied to our DNO to get approval and will then be able to firm things up.
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Post by Martin on Jun 20, 2022 18:58:38 GMT
Our electric supplier went bust earlier this year - and based on their prices it was only a matter of time once the wholesale price blew up. We were moved to British Gas. I reckon we're paying double what we were this time last year. I've just got an outline quote from a local supplier for a 6 kVa solar PV system plus backup battery. He said he's never been so busy. We've applied to our DNO to get approval and will then be able to firm things up. What do you think the payback will be?
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Post by clunes on Jun 21, 2022 14:28:18 GMT
Our electric supplier went bust earlier this year - and based on their prices it was only a matter of time once the wholesale price blew up. We were moved to British Gas. I reckon we're paying double what we were this time last year. I've just got an outline quote from a local supplier for a 6 kVa solar PV system plus backup battery. He said he's never been so busy. We've applied to our DNO to get approval and will then be able to firm things up. What do you think the payback will be? Interested in this also - I'm effectively rebuilding my property from the ground up and this is one of the options I could build in rather than bolt on in future. That said, it's not my 'forever home' and budgets are so tight given the costs of everything are crazy right now so I'm not sure I can justify the additional outlay (a few thousand at minimum)
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Post by Martin on Jun 21, 2022 16:38:05 GMT
I ran some numbers through an online calculator a a few weeks ago and (iirc) it was about 15 years payback if I fed back into the system or closer to 20 years if I didn't.
That will change if electricity prices keep rising, but it doesn't feel like a good way of spending/investing my money at the moment?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2022 17:11:55 GMT
Difficult to predict if any up front investment now is a wise purchase. Inevitably the future is opaque so doing the deed now may well improve the property at the right time.
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Post by Alex on Jun 21, 2022 18:06:45 GMT
Trouble is the cost of solar has soared. If you were fitting at last years prices then against this years electricity costs you're payback is looking much sooner but this years electricity prices have sent a decent solar+battery combo from around £5k to £10k+ and that's assuming you're fitting it today. The demand has pushed up lead times so there's no guarantee you won't be looking at nearer £15k by the time you fit them.
Another factor could be with what you're planning to power with them. If you're going down the route of having an EV powered off of them then the cost of petrol (which I don't think is going to drop anytime soon) also reduces your payback time.
You get f**k all for supplying to the grid.
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Post by PG on Jun 21, 2022 19:18:30 GMT
....I've just got an outline quote from a local supplier for a 6 kVa solar PV system plus backup battery. He said he's never been so busy. We've applied to our DNO to get approval and will then be able to firm things up. What do you think the payback will be? I t looks like 15 years. That's using a Tesla Powerwall plus Gateway so it can work in a power cut, which we felt was important. With a cheaper battery that can't be used in a power outage, it was about 12 years. But I reckon that will come down as it's based on our current consumption. Add in how electricity is only going to cost more; a solar diverter for hot water in the summer; and go forward 5 years maybe then EV's are coming; so a lot may change in the assumptions.
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