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Post by michael on Jun 28, 2017 15:11:21 GMT
Is the Ford Transit the only van sold under a single name?
The reason I ask, I followed what I thought was a Fiat Doblo the other day and it had a Mercedes badge on the back. Then, today I saw a Renault Traffic/Vauxhall Vivaro and it had a Fiat badge on it and you can also get a Mitsubishi truck with a Fiat badge - are the source of all commercial vehicles now?
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Post by Alex on Jun 28, 2017 15:15:33 GMT
Great Wall Steed?
i get your point though. Quite a few manufacturers are doing his in cars as well. My colleague just got a Mercedes A class and found it had a Renault engine!
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Post by humphreythepug on Jun 28, 2017 15:18:20 GMT
The Mercedes Citan is a Kangoo, I believe the new Vito is based on the Renault Trafic/Vauxhall Vivaro/Fiat Talento.
I think that the Transit is the Transit and nothing else.
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Post by humphreythepug on Jun 28, 2017 15:20:09 GMT
Great Wall Steed? i get your point though. Quite a few manufacturers are doing his in cars as well. My colleague just got a Mercedes A class and found it had a Renault engine! Oh my god is he ok, I bet he is horrified to find something French in his precision engineered German car. |
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Post by michael on Jun 28, 2017 15:24:19 GMT
The Mercedes Citan is a Kangoo, Is that not related to a Doblo at all? The look similar to say the least. |
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Post by cbeaks1 on Jun 28, 2017 16:18:56 GMT
The Mercedes Citan is a Kangoo, Is that not related to a Doblo at all? The look similar to say the least. Doblo is a Vauxhall Combi now as well. Unrelated to a Shitan or Kangoo |
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Post by cbeaks1 on Jun 28, 2017 16:19:35 GMT
Combo
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Post by PG on Jun 28, 2017 18:50:15 GMT
I'm even more confused now.........................
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Post by Alex on Jun 28, 2017 20:12:36 GMT
I'm even more confused now......................... That's probably why so many people just buy a Transit! |
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Post by michael on Jun 28, 2017 20:21:40 GMT
I would have put money on the Mercedes being a Doblo. Does Ford do any platform sharing in commercial?
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 28, 2017 20:28:47 GMT
I would have put money on the Mercedes being a Doblo. Does Ford do any platform sharing in commercial? Without knowing for certain, I'd take a guess at "no". I suppose they don't need the economies of scale of platform sharing due to having such a hefty chunk of the market? Mercedes shares the Sprinter with VW and, at least in the previous gen Sprinter, an American company (Dodge?) |
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Post by michael on Jun 28, 2017 20:32:32 GMT
Mercedes vans are sold as Chrysler in North America.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 28, 2017 20:42:04 GMT
I didn't know this until I just Googled but the Peugeot Boxer/Citroen Relay is a Dodge Ram ProMaster in the US.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 28, 2017 20:46:28 GMT
Mercedes vans are sold as Chrysler in North America. From Wikipedia The first generation (VA Chassis) North American Sprinter was launched in 2001 in the U.S. and was originally branded as a Freightliner. Units sold to the rest of North America were badged as Mercedes-Benz until 2003 when they received Dodge branding. Units in the United States and Canada, but not in Mexico, could be purchased as a Dodge or Freightliner from 2003. I recall seeing them with a Dodge grille. |
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Post by Blarno on Jun 29, 2017 9:29:34 GMT
The Incestuous World Of Vans.
Is that the X rated follow up to the Cars movie franchise?
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Post by michael on Jun 29, 2017 9:59:04 GMT
The Incestuous World Of Vans. Is that the X rated follow up to the Cars movie franchise? Kangoo got stuck in Traffic. |
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Post by Blarno on Jun 29, 2017 10:25:11 GMT
What baffles me is BMW not wanting a piece of the commercial vehicle pie.
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Post by Ben on Jun 29, 2017 16:37:28 GMT
They're too sniffy for that. Audi too.
Actually it seems that Mercedes is the outlier in having a commercial vehicle division.
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Post by Martin on Jun 29, 2017 17:17:23 GMT
VAG have VW commercial vehicles, no need for an Audi branded one, MAN is in the VW group as well as is that well know German brand Scania. Mercedes vans are generally no better than anything else as far as I know and their lorries are towards the lower end of the market (price and quality) just above DAF, MAN and Volvo are nicer trucks.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 29, 2017 17:23:15 GMT
Scania was Swedish.
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Post by Martin on Jun 29, 2017 19:02:47 GMT
Indeed it was, once owned by SAAB. It was so famously Swedish that I thought everyone would spot the joke  |
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 29, 2017 19:05:33 GMT
Indeed it was, once owned by SAAB. It was so famously Swedish that I thought everyone would spot the joke I did wonder if there was a joke in there somewhere.......... Adding to Stu's post. I seem to recall Ford Trucks were rebranded Freightliner in some markets. The old Ford Cargo springs to mind before they became the IVECO Eurocargo. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 30, 2017 14:11:47 GMT
The Sprinter was a Freightliner in the US at some point. Not sure on the Iveco/Ford Cargo.
There are van versions of the MINI so perhaps that's as far as BMW want to tread. For now.
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Post by Alex on Jun 30, 2017 22:16:36 GMT
The Sprinter was a Freightliner in the US at some point. Not sure on the Iveco/Ford Cargo. There are van versions of the MINI so perhaps that's as far as BMW want to tread. For now. It's ok they've outsourced it to China Brilliance:  |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jul 4, 2017 8:16:55 GMT
The Sprinter was a Freightliner in the US at some point. Not sure on the Iveco/Ford Cargo. There are van versions of the MINI so perhaps that's as far as BMW want to tread. For now. It's ok they've outsourced it to China Brilliance: Is that a new 1 Series Active Tourer? |
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