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Post by Boxer6 on Jun 27, 2017 22:59:03 GMT
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Post by michael on Jun 28, 2017 8:26:57 GMT
The detail on some of those is awesome, thanks for sharing. Do they start as kits or are people making these from scratch out of parts they've fabricated themselves?
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Post by Alex on Jun 28, 2017 8:38:01 GMT
Agree with Michael, the detailing is impressive. I've attended a lo of model railway exhibitions with my Dad over the years and it is often startling to see the level of detail some modellers put into their layouts. Wish I had that much time on my hands!
Thanks for sharing Ian.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 28, 2017 9:00:41 GMT
Clearly an awful lot of time and effort goes into making those. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Tim on Jun 28, 2017 9:23:23 GMT
Those look amazing, I especially like the Catalina and A-10.
Are any of those yours Ian?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 9:27:15 GMT
Imagine the heartache of crashing. It must take an age to make something like that.
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Post by Tim on Jun 28, 2017 10:08:13 GMT
Imagine the heartache of crashing. It must take an age to make something like that.
One of my cousins used to fly model gliders off Falkland Hill (in central Fife) and having carried the thing to the top would launch it and then run down the hill while also flying it (clearly some kind of extreme sport!). I presume a crash was one of the landing options.
He also built the 1:20 ish scale Airfix Hurricane that I was given age 6 (brilliant gift there) and it is absolutely stunning, albeit having suffered somewhat over the last 40 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:11:05 GMT
I made a similarly-sized Harrier when I was a kid. Makes me want to go and buy a big kit and get stuck in (non-flying, I hasten to add), but my close vision is so much worse than when I used to make these things regularly, as evidenced by the struggle I had with the kit I got for Christmas a few years ago. It was enjoyable, but frustrating in almost equal measure.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:15:11 GMT
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Post by Boxer6 on Jun 28, 2017 10:16:10 GMT
The detail on some of those is awesome, thanks for sharing. Do they start as kits or are people making these from scratch out of parts they've fabricated themselves? Almost all of these models started out as kits. A lot of people add little bits and pieces and spend a lot of time 'weathering' the paint etc for example. One (possibly both) of the B17's has tiny red LED's in the gun turrets to make it look as though they're firing! Agree with Michael, the detailing is impressive. I've attended a lo of model railway exhibitions with my Dad over the years and it is often startling to see the level of detail some modellers put into their layouts. Wish I had that much time on my hands! Thanks for sharing Ian. You may remember the pics I posted of my dad's hand-made locos at the old place; some of these models have detail on a par with them. Detailing IS limited though, as every extra gramme can make the model more difficult to fly. There are also weight limits to be adhered to as well. Those look amazing, I especially like the Catalina and A-10. Are any of those yours Ian? The Catalina is one of the models my friend and mentor took along, as is the blue & green heli. I don't know whose the A10 was. None of these are mine, as you require possession of either a SAA Silver safety award or the LMA proficiency test, neither of which I have. The model called Renegade in the very first pic is what I'm nearly finished making for myself - only to tweak the cowl and put it all together. Imagine the heartache of crashing. It must take an age to make something like that. It's a bit gutting to crash anything - goes with the territory though, sadly. Damage can range from small dents or ripped-out undercarriage (the most common two at our club) right up to complete destruction! The Renegade I mentioned in reply to Tim has taken me about 8 hours so far, in large part because it's been nearly 40 years since I did anything like this made out of wood! Not long to go now though. Glad you all liked them and thanks for he kind words. |
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Post by Tim on Jun 28, 2017 10:17:38 GMT
I've bought a few normal kits in recent years but don't have the patience to put all the details on (or, in some cases, finish them).
If they're completed they'll get a colour scheme that's an approximation of what it should be, camouflage as they've all been tanks or aircraft.
Seeing one of them inspired a mate to start making them again but he's been going daft with detail to the extent that he buys additional bits, such as seat belts, for 1:48 scale aircraft!
I think he uses one of those stand-mounted magnify glasses with a light incorporated.
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Post by Boxer6 on Jun 28, 2017 10:23:59 GMT
I've bought a few normal kits in recent years but don't have the patience to put all the details on (or, in some cases, finish them). If they're completed they'll get a colour scheme that's an approximation of what it should be, camouflage as they've all been tanks or aircraft. Seeing one of them inspired a mate to start making them again but he's been going daft with detail to the extent that he buys additional bits, such as seat belts, for 1:48 scale aircraft! I think he uses one of those stand-mounted magnify glasses with a light incorporated. I know the feeling! I did a couple of Spitfires in 1:72 and 1:48, then started a 1:48 Mosquito which turned into a real pain when it came to the landing gear so I ditched that and started a P-47 in the same scale. That's going well enough, but since actual flying weather has got here (sort of!) it's been sitting in the garage with lots of little bits needing doing to it! I'll get back to it . . . some time |
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Post by Martin on Jun 28, 2017 10:56:00 GMT
Seriously impressive detail, most of them look like the real thing in photographs.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jun 28, 2017 21:11:58 GMT
Great photos, Ian!
I'm not sure I'd want to fly anywhere in an autogiro.
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 3, 2017 7:24:07 GMT
Most of these pictures are of models, the exceptions being the 7/8th scale SE.5.A WW1 fighter plane Is that flown by a midget or is it still remote-control? As per other comments, I am in awe of the detail in some of those models |
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Post by Andy C on Jul 3, 2017 9:42:38 GMT
Great pics
I'd like to go to one of these events as I imagine it would be good fun
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 3, 2017 12:20:43 GMT
Most of these pictures are of models, the exceptions being the 7/8th scale SE.5.A WW1 fighter plane Is that flown by a midget or is it still remote-control? As per other comments, I am in awe of the detail in some of those models Flown by a fairly rotund, somewhat elderly gentleman Chris - it's a real aircraft, just not quite as big as the original! |
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Post by ChrisM on Jul 3, 2017 12:25:24 GMT
^
Is the engine also a 7/8 scale replica or is that an original 1:1 ?
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 3, 2017 20:58:57 GMT
^ Is the engine also a 7/8 scale replica or is that an original 1:1 ? Ah, that I don't know. Probably know someone who knows someone to find out though . . . |
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Post by michael on Jul 3, 2017 21:00:50 GMT
Can anyone fly these things are or are they under similar regulations as drones?
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 3, 2017 22:48:11 GMT
Can anyone fly these things are or are they under similar regulations as drones? Under the proposed new regulations, they are technically UAV's - Unmanned Aerial Vehicles. At the moment, like with quads (what the meedja call "drones") anyone may fly them, but at this type of event pilots must hold either a SAA Silver safety award, LMA proficiency award or BMFA 'B' award. SE5A pilot excepted, as he has a nPPL licence at the very minimum to be allowed to fly that! What many people are unaware of is that legislation does already exist in regard to where and when model aircraft may be flown; these come under the auspices of the CAA and the ANO's (Air Navigation Orders) issued by them, and carry some quite severe penalties if perpetrators are caught. The "new" regulations are a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the irresponsible few, much like the so-called "Middle-lane hogging" law of last year (2015? Can't remember); what I mean is, the laws are already there, it's just that 99.9% of people don't know about them! |
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Post by alf on Jul 11, 2017 13:52:39 GMT
Great stuff! Loving the Catalina, BF109, and Mustang. Do I get a prize for knowing it was an SE5a before reading the text? Just a Mars Bar or something? No? Oh well.
Looks like a very satisfying hobby, and one that I may well get back into one day, time and wife (whichever one it may be by then) permitting. In my late teens I had an electric trainer aircraft and managed to fly it OK with no instruction (good job as it was a proper balsa wood jobbie that took ages to build!). A friend had a (lucckily prefab foam) IC engined one that only ever flew for a few seconds at warp speed before he smashed it into the ground and into smithereens. I preferred ones that looked like they were actually flying, not being pulled across the sky at scale SR-71 speeds by a massive engine!
We flew on a friend's dad's land - I assume that's OK as long as it's not on a flight path or anything? I often ponder getting a plane now and just flying it on some big fields near here, but it sounds like that may get one into deep poo these days...
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 12, 2017 22:02:09 GMT
Great stuff! Loving the Catalina, BF109, and Mustang. Do I get a prize for knowing it was an SE5a before reading the text? Just a Mars Bar or something? No? Oh well. Looks like a very satisfying hobby, and one that I may well get back into one day, time and wife (whichever one it may be by then) permitting. In my late teens I had an electric trainer aircraft and managed to fly it OK with no instruction (good job as it was a proper balsa wood jobbie that took ages to build!). A friend had a (lucckily prefab foam) IC engined one that only ever flew for a few seconds at warp speed before he smashed it into the ground and into smithereens. I preferred ones that looked like they were actually flying, not being pulled across the sky at scale SR-71 speeds by a massive engine! We flew on a friend's dad's land - I assume that's OK as long as it's not on a flight path or anything? I often ponder getting a plane now and just flying it on some big fields near here, but it sounds like that may get one into deep poo these days... While it's fair to say electric models have come a long way, and are very clean, relatively cheap way of powering model planes, there are very definite disadvantages. One is that flight times compared to i/c are very short - 5-6 minutes being deemed a decent flight time, compared to upwards of 20 minutes for many glow/petrol engined craft. The second is this;     This is the end result of a LiPo (Lithium Polymer) battery burning itself out during charging earlier tonight. Charger was proven, battery was new and on only its second charge cycle. Polarity correct and all parameters double-checked and correct. It's just one of those things that can sometimes happen, reason never to be ascertained. This battery was being charged on my bench, in the garage. I was fortunate I was loading the car when this happened and, despite a bit of flapping around for a few seconds (a bit annoyed with myself about that tbh), managed to get the extinguisher out of the car and smother the worst of the flames/smoke so I could get it outside onto the stones of next door's drive! (They're away on holiday, handily). Worst case scenario was a burnt-down garage - it's that serious! Went flying anyway, and smashed the wing of my favourite model I was trying out on another (electric!) plane when it spiralled into the ground for no apparent reason. It hasn't been a good day really, as a glass side table we had delivered, the second in 5 days actually, was smashed to bits on delivery. By the same DPD guy as the first time. Ho hum.  |
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 12, 2017 22:04:47 GMT
Oh, the burnt-out plane is the model I've just finished building but not yet flown; it's called a Renegade, and has a brand new SC .46 engine in it which also has never run. It will go into another plane I have and power that instead.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 13, 2017 6:20:49 GMT
Blimey. It sounds like a philosophical attitude is a big help when it comes to flying model aircraft. Fair play to you, I'd be heartbroken!
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 13, 2017 8:49:03 GMT
Blimey. It sounds like a philosophical attitude is a big help when it comes to flying model aircraft. Fair play to you, I'd be heartbroken! Not far off actually - I really liked that plane too. Might get another one, as I have the wings ready to go and the cowl was completed re hole cutting etc. It's very nice to fly (tried one already) and just about perfect for honing my aero skills. I have a Yak54 I was going to build as an electric, but may well stick the engine from this one in it instead.
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Post by Tim on Jul 13, 2017 9:38:40 GMT
The battery is called Dynamite. Seems appropriate  Commiserations though. |
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Post by alf on Jul 13, 2017 14:38:20 GMT
Ah the joy of LiPo batteries! I used to race RC cars at school, and have bought a few in recent years (something I do with Lu sometimes, though she is showing less interest now so let's be honest - just a "me" hobby now!). I'm shocked at how much faster the LiPo batteries and brushless motors make them compared to decades past, and at very low prices too. I bought some cars very cheap as they take "saddle pack" LiPo's which are hard to find, I have wired up a few myself and while some cells have failed prematurely, none has yet caught fire... I charge them in the garage on the concrete floor but not always in a fireproof bag (sometimes in the car) - from those pics I should be more disciplined!
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