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Post by LandieMark on Jul 27, 2019 12:34:11 GMT
While I have no pretence as to sartorial knowledge, I am at Ladies day at Newcastle Races.
The are lots of nice ladies in pretty frocks. What I don't get are the young lads in smart suit jackets which are accompanied by half mast trousers, no socks and proper shoes (brogues) or loafers. Why? You lok like a tit.
I am dressed in Chinos, checked shirt, Drizabone wax and flat cap (it's pissing down) with Loake dealer boots.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 12:44:44 GMT
I have no idea either, it just seems that occasions are not properly appreciated/respected. IMHO, if you do not really care to do something properly, do not do it at all. Perhaps being seen is more important than how one is perceived.
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Post by Martin on Jul 27, 2019 13:47:38 GMT
Trousers at half mast with shoes but no socks puzzles me as well.
I was at Ladies day in Chester a few weeks ago and it wasn’t as bad, compulsory jacket and tie in the area I was in and lots of very nicely dressed ladies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 14:24:18 GMT
Whilst it sounds like a deeply stupid look, and speaking as one who is proud to consider fashion beneath me, what's to 'respect' about going to the gee-gees?
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 27, 2019 16:01:36 GMT
Whilst it sounds like a deeply stupid look, and speaking as one who is proud to consider fashion beneath me, what's to 'respect' about going to the gee-gees? How about it being a nice fun day out with a chance of a flutter. I am about break even today but two years ago I was £500 up on my initial £20 stake. Its a bit of fun.
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Post by cbeaks1 on Jul 27, 2019 16:06:10 GMT
Whilst it isn’t for me, the short tight trousers with no socks has been around for quite a while, and is clearly the current thing if you are under about 30.
I’m not sure it is disrespectful to horses (they love a bit of ankle) - and try to buy a shiny blue suit without short skinny trousers - it won’t be easy.
There will doubtless be a thread on a youth forum about men in chinos and Loakes.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 27, 2019 16:14:42 GMT
Whilst it sounds like a deeply stupid look, and speaking as one who is proud to consider fashion beneath me, what's to 'respect' about going to the gee-gees? I've just re read that. How about not being so judgemental based on your own prejudices. I've toned that down a lot from my previous response and what I actually want to write too.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 27, 2019 17:21:57 GMT
While I have no pretence as to sartorial knowledge, I am at Ladies day at Newcastle Races. The are lots of nice ladies in pretty frocks. What I don't get are the young lads in smart suit jackets which are accompanied by half mast trousers, no socks and proper shoes (brogues) or loafers. Why? You lok like a tit. I am dressed in Chinos, checked shirt, Drizabone wax and flat cap (it's pissing down) with Loake dealer boots. Chinos? Is it 1995 again?
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 27, 2019 17:25:31 GMT
Holly Johnson rules.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 27, 2019 17:39:39 GMT
Wearing the wrong clothes to the races is just... wrong. I have what is known as my 'day at the races hat' which has covered my head at such occasions since I was at Harper Adams, 30+ years ago. Not unlike this:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:43:44 GMT
Whilst it sounds like a deeply stupid look, and speaking as one who is proud to consider fashion beneath me, what's to 'respect' about going to the gee-gees? I've just re read that. How about not being so judgemental based on your own prejudices. I've toned that down a lot from my previous response and what I actually want to write too. I think you misunderstand. I don't have a problem with the event, just that the notion that respect should be paid by choice of clothing, as per Mike's post. Feel free to say exactly what you mean, I won't take offence.
(EDIT: I can see why though - the term 'gee-gees' could be seen as dismissive - I didn't intend it to be.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 10:48:02 GMT
What I posted came out differently from my intention. There are events and there are events. Something like the lady's days at various equine events are meant to be special days out. Normal racing there tends not to be a dress code so if people want to go to the races generally, why not miss the dress up sessions? The proms has (had) different dress code for different days. First night tended to be the student special and when I attended was quite raucous but last night of the Proms is something else entirely. At least it used to be and you had to attend at least six nights to even be in with a shout of getting to the last night. My comments were aimed at the half mast trouser brigade btw.
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 28, 2019 13:14:52 GMT
I've just re read that. How about not being so judgemental based on your own prejudices. I've toned that down a lot from my previous response and what I actually want to write too. I think you misunderstand. I don't have a problem with the event, just that the notion that respect should be paid by choice of clothing, as per Mike's post. Feel free to say exactly what you mean, I won't take offence.
(EDIT: I can see why though - the term 'gee-gees' could be seen as dismissive - I didn't intend it to be.)
My apologies, I read it as you having a problem with racing/racegoers. I actually think people should be smart for the races.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 13:25:28 GMT
No worries. I'm practically allergic to formality!
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Post by michael on Jul 28, 2019 17:20:53 GMT
On a partly related note why is it called the gee gees?
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Post by bryan on Jul 28, 2019 17:35:05 GMT
no idea - potentially linked to Gee Up to make them go faster?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 18:38:57 GMT
no idea - potentially linked to Gee Up to make them go faster? That seems to be the general consensus.
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Post by Blarno on Jul 28, 2019 20:18:22 GMT
If an event requires me to be dressed a certain way, I will do my best not to be there. I only wear clothes to prevent disturbing displays of public nakedness and to stay warm. I wear what I feel comfortable in, which is usually a pair of jeans, a t shirt and some trainers. Suits I can handle on the odd occasion I need to wear one.
I do have serious issue with the ankle wanker look. It makes them look like they either got dressed in the dark or can't pick clothes in the correct size. A couple of the office lads at work do it and I take the piss remorselessly out of them on a daily basis.
I believe the term for loafers worn with half mast trousers and no socks is "Mince trotters"
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Post by PetrolEd on Jul 29, 2019 8:20:28 GMT
I have done the rolled up trouser leg and loafer look. Why not. Being judgemental just means your turning into a grouchy old man. I do enjoy an excuse to dress up into something smart when the occasion calls and think its something that we've lost as a country. We're a right bunch of scruffy so and so's now.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 29, 2019 8:32:34 GMT
I have done the rolled up trouser leg and loafer look. Why not. Being judgemental just means your turning into a grouchy old man. I do enjoy an excuse to dress up into something smart when the occasion calls and think its something that we've lost as a country. We're a right bunch of scruffy so and so's now. You're right we have become a nation of right scruffy twats. Surely, the whole point of youth fashion is so that us older persons can look on and smile condescendingly, shaking our heads, while conveniently forgetting our own fashion disasters. I still remember my early 20s when I thought I was Don Johnson from Miami Vice, espadrilles, pastel t-shirts and jackets with the arms rolled up. Or when I was 18 and took to wearing a Harrington jacket and pork pie hat. Then there was combat pants.... It's as well to give your wardrobe a fashion reality check now and then as, if you're not careful, you can find yourself looking like your dad, wearing hopelessly dated suits, boot-cut jeans, dad shirts, multi-pocketed baggy shorts with rugby shirts etc. I've not rolled up my trouser leg yet (not even for The Masons) but I have invested in slimmer cut trousers and am not averse to going sockless on non work days.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 10:12:41 GMT
Flares, and I am not talking about the RNLI either. Some of the flare sizes are quite frightening with hindsight.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 29, 2019 10:31:22 GMT
Flares, and I am not talking about the RNLI either. Some of the flare sizes are quite frightening with hindsight.
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Post by michael on Jul 29, 2019 11:14:37 GMT
multi-pocketed baggy shorts with rugby shirts etc. This feels incredibly personal! I was at a Christening yesterday and there were representatives of the sockless, ill-fitting trouser brigade there. They said I looked like a tory wanker - I took it is a compliment.
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Post by Tim on Jul 29, 2019 11:30:38 GMT
I have done the rolled up trouser leg and loafer look. Why not. Being judgemental just means your turning into a grouchy old man. I do enjoy an excuse to dress up into something smart when the occasion calls and think its something that we've lost as a country. We're a right bunch of scruffy so and so's now. I have to wear a suit to work and grudgingly accept it. I'd wear shorts and a t-shirt if I could get away with it (which I did at one firm!) because how I dress doesn't affect my ability to perform my job. Plus, as a man, why do I have to wear a suit while the females wear all sorts. The ones here a re reasonably well dressed but a few of them wear trainers or Converse with black trousers. Of course, they all have half a dozen pairs of heels (their choice) under their desk for when that's required.
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Post by Blarno on Jul 29, 2019 11:44:19 GMT
You can't be out of style if you're never in style.
That's me.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 29, 2019 12:16:03 GMT
Of course, they all have half a dozen pairs of heels (their choice) under their desk for when that's required. I take it you're talking about the blokes? I had a guy complain to me that as a man he had to wear a shirt and tie in the summer while Brenda from Accounts could swan around in a Dorothy Perkins Kaftan and strappy sandals. I agreed it was hard to justify and compromised that he could wear what Brenda wore. Which I thought was only fair.
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Post by Martin on Jul 29, 2019 12:24:38 GMT
I wear smart trousers and a branded polo shirt for work, at least 4 days out of 5. I rarely need to wear a suit and even when I do it's without a tie, which took some getting used to. It does mean that when I do need to wear a suit and tie for an event, it doesn't feel like I'm going to work.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 29, 2019 12:39:53 GMT
We have the branded polos. Wearing one I never know whether I should be at work or on the geek desk in Currys PC World.
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Post by Martin on Jul 29, 2019 12:44:14 GMT
We have the branded polos. Wearing one I never know whether I should be at work or on the geek desk in Currys PC World. It did feel a bit like that at first. There is the option of a branded white shirt (for Management only.....so that's a non starter) or I could wear a normal shirt, but all the driver and warehouse colleagues have to wear the polo shirt so I don't see why I should be any different.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 29, 2019 12:56:49 GMT
We have the branded polos. Wearing one I never know whether I should be at work or on the geek desk in Currys PC World. It did feel a bit like that at first. There is the option of a branded white shirt (for Management only.....so that's a non starter) or I could wear a normal shirt, but all the driver and warehouse colleagues have to wear the polo shirt so I don't see why I should be any different. I've got the branded white (and blue) shirts as well. Wearing one I never know whether I should be at work or managing a McDonald's franchise. I did draw the line at short sleeves though.
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