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Post by johnc on Jun 28, 2019 7:57:52 GMT
I was in the office at 6.30 this morning and it's usually pretty quiet but as I was making myself a cuppa, there was a lot of shouting and incoherent chants outside.
I looked out and there were 3 youths about 16yrs old who were stumbling and swaying their way along the pavement. There might have been alcohol involved but it looked much more like the spaced out walk of someone on drugs. The schools in this area of Glasgow finished for summer yesterday and I can only assume these guys had been at an end of year party and were now trying to get home. They stopped at the petrol station to pick up Red Bull and Mars bars and then sat outside on the wall arguing and making up with each other and shouting at some of the cars as they went past.
I am perhaps being a bit harsh but when I saw the state they were in, they way they looked and how young they were, I couldn't help but think that in their 16 short years they have virtually closed most of the doors to their futures before their lives have even started. If I saw them coming I'd cross the road to avoid them.
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 28, 2019 8:04:11 GMT
I hear you and would have thought the same however I think back to what I was like at that age and many times I was out late drinking and smoking and being a general nuisance.
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Post by Tim on Jun 28, 2019 8:15:47 GMT
I'm surprised (although less frequently as time goes by) by the number of times I can be walking the short distance to work and get a strong whiff of the distinct smell of weed being smoked by a fellow pedestrian dressed for work, usually wearing a suit.
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Post by Andy C on Jun 28, 2019 8:34:58 GMT
I was in the office at 6.30 this morning and it's usually pretty quiet but as I was making myself a cuppa, there was a lot of shouting and incoherent chants outside. I looked out and there were 3 youths about 16yrs old who were stumbling and swaying their way along the pavement. There might have been alcohol involved but it looked much more like the spaced out walk of someone on drugs. The schools in this area of Glasgow finished for summer yesterday and I can only assume these guys had been at an end of year party and were now trying to get home. They stopped at the petrol station to pick up Red Bull and Mars bars and then sat outside on the wall arguing and making up with each other and shouting at some of the cars as they went past. I am perhaps being a bit harsh but when I saw the state they were in, they way they looked and how young they were, I couldn't help but think that in their 16 short years they have virtually closed most of the doors to their futures before their lives have even started. If I saw them coming I'd cross the road to avoid them. Sounds pretty normal to me . A 16 year old has just finished exams/school . All the hard work, revision , stress is over Let’s go celebrate and drink some glens, smoke a spliff , drop a pill or 2 and have a bloody good time |
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Post by ChrisM on Jun 28, 2019 8:53:31 GMT
I hear you and would have thought the same however I think back to what I was like at that age ..... ....I spend the summer holidays redecorating some of the rooms of my parents house and doing other "family chores"; where has the sense of "family" gone to in the UK ?? |
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Post by Alex on Jun 28, 2019 9:07:05 GMT
I hear you and would have thought the same however I think back to what I was like at that age ..... ....I spend the summer holidays redecorating some of the rooms of my parents house and doing other "family chores"; where has the sense of "family" gone to in the UK ?? I was more like Ed. I did work in a shop to get some cash but it was spent getting cheap booze from the offie and going to parties on the beach around Sandbanks. Sometimes as we stumbled home we’d kip on park benches in Poole Park to sleep off a bit of the hangover before carrying on home. The post GCSE summer was easily the best summer hols of my youth. Good times! |
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 28, 2019 9:24:52 GMT
I hear you and would have thought the same however I think back to what I was like at that age ..... ....I spend the summer holidays redecorating some of the rooms of my parents house and doing other "family chores"; where has the sense of "family" gone to in the UK ?? I spent most of my summers at the stables ogling teenage girls in jodhpurs amongst other things. Family values can get distorted. I remember being told that my sole existence as a teenager was to do chores for my father. He told me only a couple of months ago that one of the reasons I was here was to make his life easier. I hung up the phone at that point. |
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Post by PetrolEd on Jun 28, 2019 9:36:04 GMT
....I spend the summer holidays redecorating some of the rooms of my parents house and doing other "family chores"; where has the sense of "family" gone to in the UK ?? I spent most of my summers at the stables ogling teenage girls in jodhpurs amongst other things. Family values can get distorted. I remember being told that my sole existence as a teenager was to do chores for my father. He told me only a couple of months ago that one of the reasons I was here was to make his life easier. I hung up the phone at that point. Ouch, my father is another one who is more old school and although he did what he thought was best for the family, working his tits off a making a lot of money, it wasn't best for the family. I'm determined not to make the same mistake with my son.
The older generations talk about "family" a lot but in my mind they just mean rules and discipline. Kids are obviously given more rope these days and obviously don't always get it right.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jun 28, 2019 9:42:54 GMT
I spent the long summer holidays between 16 and 18 labouring on building sites. The money was good, I got to drive a 4 wheel steer dumper truck, and I got a free tan. I didn't have to save any of it as you still got a grant for going to Uni.
That said, if kids of that age want to go out on an all-nighter and have some fun they're only doing what we did at their age. Many's the time I'd be getting home as the sun came up.
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Post by LandieMark on Jun 28, 2019 9:47:51 GMT
Don't get me wrong, my dad worked bloody hard and made sacrifices so I wouldn't have to do what he did. I do love him - he's my dad. I just don't like him as a person a lot of the time. Family business means we have to interact more than I would ideally like.
He is starting to get the message that some my responsibilities are more important than me spending a day and a 100 mile round trip to take his car to the garage for service just so he didn't have to. Getting that point across isn't very good for my blood pressure though.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 28, 2019 17:32:36 GMT
....I spend the summer holidays redecorating some of the rooms of my parents house and doing other "family chores"; where has the sense of "family" gone to in the UK ?? Family values can get distorted. I remember being told that my sole existence as a teenager was to do chores for my father. He told me only a couple of months ago that one of the reasons I was here was to make his life easier. I hung up the phone at that point. I'm not the only one, then. My late teens / early twenties (when not at school or Harper Adams) were mostly spent on the farm, getting pissed with the young farmers, or rolling in the hay with the aforementioned stable girls / shepherdesses. Those were the days when either the least pissed or the youngest got to drive the car load back, always stopping at Strensham services or some dodgy burger van in Worcester for a bit of gut-fill. Wouldn't get away with it now. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jul 1, 2019 7:58:35 GMT
I was in the office at 6.30 this morning and it's usually pretty quiet but as I was making myself a cuppa, there was a lot of shouting and incoherent chants outside. I looked out and there were 3 youths about 16yrs old who were stumbling and swaying their way along the pavement. There might have been alcohol involved but it looked much more like the spaced out walk of someone on drugs. The schools in this area of Glasgow finished for summer yesterday and I can only assume these guys had been at an end of year party and were now trying to get home. They stopped at the petrol station to pick up Red Bull and Mars bars and then sat outside on the wall arguing and making up with each other and shouting at some of the cars as they went past. I am perhaps being a bit harsh but when I saw the state they were in, they way they looked and how young they were, I couldn't help but think that in their 16 short years they have virtually closed most of the doors to their futures before their lives have even started. If I saw them coming I'd cross the road to avoid them. Getting annoyed at the yoof of today is a sign of getting older and less tolerant. I do it often! |
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Post by Tim on Jul 1, 2019 8:33:08 GMT
How about this from, sort of, the other end of yoof culture? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48769244That's crazy and surely the pressure it puts on teenagers (and their parents' pockets) is unnacceptable. |
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 1, 2019 9:45:58 GMT
How about this from, sort of, the other end of yoof culture? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48769244That's crazy and surely the pressure it puts on teenagers (and their parents' pockets) is unnacceptable. I'm not against Proms - it's quite nice for them to have something to look forward to at the end of the year as a reward for hard work. It's just getting out of hand now as people compete with each other to see who can be the most extravagant. When you see people getting payday loans to cover the costs involved you know peoples' priorities are getting seriously out of whack. Not sure I could have been arsed though when I was at school. I was happy to go on study leave, come in for the exams, and then bugger off for the long hols. |
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Post by LandieMark on Jul 1, 2019 9:46:01 GMT
Another Americanism that has caught on. What happened to the end of year disco?
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Post by Boxer6 on Jul 1, 2019 9:55:31 GMT
How about this from, sort of, the other end of yoof culture? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48769244That's crazy and surely the pressure it puts on teenagers (and their parents' pockets) is unnacceptable. Just one more import from Murca we neither need or want.
Madness.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 10:41:01 GMT
Totally pharking nuts. When we left, we left. End of. It is however another sign of the culture of want and want NOW!
I wish they would make another series of angry old gits, I would feel right at home again.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Jul 1, 2019 10:44:07 GMT
Totally pharking nuts. When we left, we left. End of. It is however another sign of the culture of want and want NOW! Is it? As I understand attendance at the Prom is contingent on good behaviour, regular attendance and completing the year. Seems quite a good incentive to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 11:03:42 GMT
I am talking about the financial aspect. Spending like some appear to do is plain nuts and while it IS their money, the culture thing is a mistake. Yes, imho.
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Post by humphreythepug on Jul 1, 2019 15:29:29 GMT
....I spend the summer holidays redecorating some of the rooms of my parents house and doing other "family chores"; where has the sense of "family" gone to in the UK ?? I was more like Ed. I did work in a shop to get some cash but it was spent getting cheap booze from the offie and going to parties on the beach around Sandbanks. Sometimes as we stumbled home we’d kip on park benches in Poole Park to sleep off a bit of the hangover before carrying on home. The post GCSE summer was easily the best summer hols of my youth. Good times! That was me too; no drugs but plenty of booze. |
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Post by humphreythepug on Jul 1, 2019 15:37:50 GMT
How about this from, sort of, the other end of yoof culture? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48769244That's crazy and surely the pressure it puts on teenagers (and their parents' pockets) is unnacceptable. Just one more import from Murca we neither need or want.
Madness.
Proms started to appear when my eldest (she's 27 this year) left school, they were more extravagant when my youngest (20) left, but still generally financially manageable but some parents did go overboard, I guess we are lucky as my kids aren't spoilt so don't demand and stamp their feet. My colleague has just gone through it with his daughter; the dress alone was £300! |
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Post by Tim on Jul 1, 2019 15:53:33 GMT
At least he didn't have to hire a helicopter as well! What about this www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-your-money-48776454'Oh poor us, we failed to teach our daughter any financial sense at all and are now left with some of her debt and it's society's fault'. Or somesuch. Arseholes. |
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Post by Roadsterstu on Jul 2, 2019 8:59:19 GMT
How about this from, sort of, the other end of yoof culture? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48769244That's crazy and surely the pressure it puts on teenagers (and their parents' pockets) is unnacceptable. Only if they let it? |
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Post by Blarno on Jul 2, 2019 21:22:56 GMT
Pretty standard teenage behaviour that. Well, that was my teenage years at least. If I wasn't at school or college, I was either sleeping, earning money or spending that money on various, often illicit, things.
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