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Post by Martin on Mar 27, 2019 10:54:36 GMT
As the man from the RAC has pointed out it's INAPPROPRIATE speed that is often the problem and he queries whether people will just drive everywhere at the limit. So if you're on a motorway in thick fog and its minus 10 degrees you'll still be able to do 70 and even now plenty of people don't appear to have the brain power to realise that's not a good idea. No you won't - the cars will all be networked and as soon as the overhead gantry signs come on to say, 50mph, all the limiters on the cars will kick in restricting them to 50 mph on that stretch of motorway. We've already got cars that use the sat nav to adjust their set up for bends etc so in the case of a stretch of single carriageway roads where there has been a number of accidents the authorities will just instruct all cars to slow down for that part of the road - say from 60mph down to 40mph. The latest voodoo cruise systems also include speed limit detection and adjust the set speed accordingly.
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Post by Tim on Mar 27, 2019 11:08:11 GMT
Even my mere Micra has traffic sign recognition and it shows changes instantly. However, there was one day where the traffic collision avoidance light was flashing and I reckon it was due to it having been a cold night and the housing steaming up as the car warmed up, that could cause carnage if people solely relied on the tech.
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Post by Ben on Mar 27, 2019 11:10:47 GMT
As the man from the RAC has pointed out it's INAPPROPRIATE speed that is often the problem and he queries whether people will just drive everywhere at the limit. So if you're on a motorway in thick fog and its minus 10 degrees you'll still be able to do 70 and even now plenty of people don't appear to have the brain power to realise that's not a good idea. But here's the thing: who's to judge what's appropriate or not? Some people can handle 70 in a bit of wet, some people can't do 20 in perfect dry weather. It all boils down to the individual doesn't it?
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 27, 2019 11:24:15 GMT
It all boils down to the individual doesn't it? No one will be allowed to be an individual in the Great European Superstate.
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 27, 2019 11:24:16 GMT
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It gets more interesting if you research a little. For example, Volvo will not only limit the top speed of all their cars but they are working on a system where their cars talk to each other. For example if you are on a road in winter and the car detects that you suffered wheelspin as a result of what it thinks is ice on the road it will talk to all other Volvos in the area to ensure that their speeds are adjusted accordingly on the stretch of road where the ice was suspected of being, to minimise the risk of another Volvo slipping out of control at that place.
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Post by Tim on Mar 27, 2019 11:49:43 GMT
^ It gets more interesting if you research a little. For example, Volvo will not only limit the top speed of all their cars but they are working on a system where their cars talk to each other. For example if you are on a road in winter and the car detects that you suffered wheelspin as a result of what it thinks is ice on the road it will talk to all other Volvos in the area to ensure that their speeds are adjusted accordingly on the stretch of road where the ice was suspected of being, to minimise the risk of another Volvo slipping out of control at that place. That'd be great fun - buy yourself a Volvo, do a full-blooded standing start away from every junction and then watch every other Volvo on the road depart at glacial speed from them. Obviously you'd have to change your route all the time so didn't screw it up for yourself.
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Post by johnc on Mar 27, 2019 12:08:10 GMT
The next step will be that we all pay our salaries and profit to the Government who will give us back what they believe we require each month. A few years after that there will be mass upheaval and revolt unless they have fitted us all with chips by that time which control our behaviour! Time to check out to a yacht and leave these shores. Fuck me, it's depressing.
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 27, 2019 13:32:09 GMT
Time to check out to a yacht and leave these shores. Fuck me, it's depressing. Indeed.... it's almost as if the government does not trust anyone anymore. They want to know our every move by monitoring us on CCTV everywhere we go outside or own homes, monitor our movements in cars by tracking them through ANPR, monitor us at the borders when we leave and enter the country, monitor activity on social media websites, get our ISPs to keep detailed logs of every website we visit, get telecomms companies to log every call we make from landlines and mobile phones etc etc. It really is a case of "Big Brother is watching you"
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Post by Martin on Mar 27, 2019 14:57:04 GMT
Even my mere Micra has traffic sign recognition and it shows changes instantly. However, there was one day where the traffic collision avoidance light was flashing and I reckon it was due to it having been a cold night and the housing steaming up as the car warmed up, that could cause carnage if people solely relied on the tech. You have to keep the VW badge on the Golf fairly clean if you don’t want an error message, as it contains the radar for the voodoo cruise and collision avoidance. It’s a much better / more elegant solution than the radar sensors fitted to a lot of cars.
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Post by Bob Sacamano v2.0 on Mar 27, 2019 15:01:22 GMT
The Qashqai radar works very well but when you get that wet snow you often get a message saying that it's temporarily inoperable due to obstruction.
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Post by Martin on Mar 27, 2019 15:13:34 GMT
Yes, snow and slush did cause an error message. Strangely it stopped all the steering wheel buttons from working as well.
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Post by Roadsterstu on Mar 27, 2019 19:56:56 GMT
Whilst there could be some benefits to this - in villages, urban areas, motorway roadworks, etc. it could be positive - but in all other respects this could be viewed as a massive invasion of privacy, overly intrusive government, removing individual responsibility. It is, frankly, draconian. The answer is, of course, to not buy new after the introduction.
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Post by Nelson on Mar 27, 2019 20:55:34 GMT
Whilst there could be some benefits to this - in villages, urban areas, motorway roadworks, etc. it could be positive - but in all other respects this could be viewed as a massive invasion of privacy, overly intrusive government, removing individual responsibility. It is, frankly, draconian. The answer is, of course, to not buy new after the introduction. This is sense
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Post by Alex on Mar 27, 2019 21:20:35 GMT
Maybe when we leave the EU we won't have to take part...?? Afraid not, EU built cars will all have it and cars built in this country will need to have it to be sold in the EU. With more and more trunk roads being fitted with average speed cameras (most A roads heading towards London are getting them) this is the next logical step.
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Post by ChrisM on Mar 27, 2019 21:23:11 GMT
^ And what will our wonderful (?) government do when their income from speeding fines suddenly drops to zero ?
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Post by Tim on Mar 28, 2019 9:54:10 GMT
Yes, snow and slush did cause an error message. Strangely it stopped all the steering wheel buttons from working as well. Aha, that's called 'character' in the world of Italian cars or dodgy electrics to the rest of you! It'll be rusting next.
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Post by Ben on Mar 28, 2019 11:44:20 GMT
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Post by Martin on Mar 28, 2019 12:37:57 GMT
Yes, snow and slush did cause an error message. Strangely it stopped all the steering wheel buttons from working as well. Aha, that's called 'character' in the world of Italian cars or dodgy electrics to the rest of you! It'll be rusting next. Hopefully not! At least it’s solved with a quick wipe with a cloth/sponge!
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